What happened to the KHL?

[darius]

I guess to some sort of extent this is a remember when.

WTF happened to fighting in the K? 98 games into the season and 4 fights? Only one by an actual topshelf name in Trevor Gillies?

And now today a memo from the OHL, any player who fights will be hit with f*&king fine????

WTF!!!!!

[fansince65]

Originally Posted by darius

I guess to some sort of extent this is a remember when.

WTF happened to fighting in the K? 98 games into the season and 4 fights? Only one by an actual topshelf name in Trevor Gillies?

And now today a memo from the OHL, any player who fights will be hit with f*&king fine????

WTF!!!!!

The KHL has been invaded by just too many soft North American players ..

[mikebflorida]

I just read that players in juniors will be LIMITED to the number of fights they can get in before getting suspended/fined and the team can get fined after fight number 15 or something.

This sport is dying right now, it really is.

That's why I like this section of HF.com, because we can reflect on a time when the game was great, at least in our opinion, when teams had loads of toughness, there was even a shortage of tough guys to go around, this was all the pre Bettman days, before someone got the bright idea to dilute the talent pool, curb fighting, make everyone wear helmets and visors, and discourage physical play.

I could care less about the KHL, personally, I think it's pretty mickey mouse, I don't want to see 2 Russians fighting with visors on or Trevor Gillies get suspended for it because you know it's coming.

Alexander Ovechkin and Malkin will both be in the KHL and all 300 of you new NHL fans who actually like the poopy product we have now can follow it all you want.

[I like Boobs]

Originally Posted by darius

I guess to some sort of extent this is a remember when.

WTF happened to fighting in the K? 98 games into the season and 4 fights? Only one by an actual topshelf name in Trevor Gillies?

And now today a memo from the OHL, any player who fights will be hit with f*&king fine????

WTF!!!!!

New OHL rules according to David Branch who hates fighting. You can only have 10 fights per year, after that you will be suspended. If you continue fighting upon returning you'll be suspended even longer and your team will be fined. It's just another of Branch's ways to kill fighting, he'll have it banished within 5 years. 10 at the most.

The actual wording of the new OHL fight rules:
1. If a player is assessed a fighting major for the 11th to 15th time during the regular season, such player is assessed an automatic two game suspension for each additional fighting major in addition to any other penalties assessed.
2. If a player is assessed a fighting major for the 16th time or more during the regular season, such player is assessed an automatic two game suspension and the hockey club is fined $1,000.00 for each additional fighting major in addition to any other penalties assessed.
3. If a player is deemed to be the instigator in any of the fights above the 10 game threshold, such player would be assessed an automatic four game suspension in addition to any other penalties assessed.

Note: If a player is instigated upon, the fighting major is not included in the player’s total number of fights.

To me, that's the beginning of the end. It's all over for tough old fashioned Canadian Hockey. Canadian hockey was built on ability and toughness, they went hand and hand. Toughness allowed ability to flourish and it was entertaining... In the better days I didn't need to see a fight to be entertained, just knowing that the possibility of one occurring was enough. This is a dark day for people who enjoy toughness and accountability. Today the rats won. The whiny kids won. Those without respect won. Now sticks and elbows and knees will fly. I just hope when a major stick incident occurs - and it will - they realize that they brought it upon themselves. At least there is still the WHL. RIP OHL hockey, you provided some beauties over the years.

[NameyMD]

I was kinda wondering the same thing..but really, there ain't a lot of fighters even left there anymore; I mean Gillies, Yablonski, Ivanans, Artyukhin, and who else..? someone I'm forgetting proabably..

Anyway I guess the three-four 'golden years' of Kontinental roid-goonery are over..which is too bad, it was better than nothing, especially with what The Show's now come to -

[darius]

Originally Posted by NameyMD

I was kinda wondering the same thing..but really, there ain't a lot of fighters even left there anymore; I mean Gillies, Yablonski, Ivanans, Artyukhin, and who else..? someone I'm forgetting proabably..

Anyway I guess the three-four 'golden years' of Kontinental roid-goonery are over..which is too bad, it was better than nothing, especially with what The Show's now come to -

Meatball Mirasty is another.

I went over all of the team rosters. Obviously the KHL is in Russia, but practically every team is 90% Russian. If they're supposed to be competing with the Bettman hockey league, I think they should be incorporating a lot more players from all over the world.

[fcm]

Originally Posted by NameyMD

I was kinda wondering the same thing..but really, there ain't a lot of fighters even left there anymore; I mean Gillies, Yablonski, Ivanans, Artyukhin, and who else..? someone I'm forgetting proabably..

Chris Simon, Darcy Verot, Alexander Svitov, Josh Gratton...

[darius]

I didn't see Verot or Gratton on any KHL roster. Doesn't mean they're not there, but I didn't see the names is all.

[RolePlaya]

Originally Posted by fcm

Chris Simon, Darcy Verot, Alexander Svitov, Josh Gratton...

Darcy Verot plays for Rubin Tyumen from VHL (kinda like AHL)
Josh Gratton , he's not in Russia this year.

[RolePlaya]

WTF happened to fighting in the K? 98 games into the season and 4 fights?

The main reason is that 80% of KHL fights were comin from Vityaz goon squad.
New Vityaz coach is an old school soviet bitch who doesn't know how to use players like Yabo and Gillies. New owner also doesn't want Vityaz to fight.

[Shoryuken]

Originally Posted by darius

Meatball Mirasty is another.

I went over all of the team rosters. Obviously the KHL is in Russia, but practically every team is 90% Russian. If they're supposed to be competing with the Bettman hockey league, I think they should be incorporating a lot more players from all over the world.

So far as I know the league has rules to that effect regarding foreigners.. they only have a certain quota allowed.

Might prove controversial this, and I enjoy seeing a good scrap as much as the next guy on here, but am I the only one who got tired of watching players like Yablonski jump and pound on guys who quite clearly had no intention of fighting back, quite often for no apparent reason?

[NJDevils17]

Originally Posted by Shoryuken

So far as I know the league has rules to that effect regarding foreigners.. they only have a certain quota allowed.

Might prove controversial this, and I enjoy seeing a good scrap as much as the next guy on here, but am I the only one who got tired of watching players like Yablonski jump and pound on guys who quite clearly had no intention of fighting back, quite often for no apparent reason?

I'm with you on that. It was somewhat entertaining at first, but now it's pretty sad how there's only one team with tough guys that just randomly beat up non-fighters.

[blackngold]

Originally Posted by RolePlaya

The main reason is that 80% of KHL fights were comin from Vityaz goon squad.
New Vityaz coach is an old school soviet bitch who doesn't know how to use players like Yabo and Gillies. New owner also doesn't want Vityaz to fight.

If Vityaz has both a new coach and a new owner this season, both of whom are reportedly fans of ***** hockey, why did they re-sign Yabo and sign Gillies?

[darius]

Originally Posted by Shoryuken

So far as I know the league has rules to that effect regarding foreigners.. they only have a certain quota allowed.

Might prove controversial this, and I enjoy seeing a good scrap as much as the next guy on here, but am I the only one who got tired of watching players like Yablonski jump and pound on guys who quite clearly had no intention of fighting back, quite often for no apparent reason?

Not only was it goofy to watch, it was an embarrassment to the guys who do this as their job. They ruined it for all others headed over seas for the big payday cashing in.

[RolePlaya]

Originally Posted by blackngold

If Vityaz has both a new coach and a new owner this season, both of whom are reportedly fans of ***** hockey, why did they re-sign Yabo and sign Gillies?

There is a man Nikolay Pavlinov, a well known crime boss.
Nikolay is a very big fan of boxing (he aslo has boxing club Vityaz)and loves tough guys and noth american style hockey.
Prior to this season, he was the owner of Vityaz, but he ran out of money or something and Vityaz was about to fall apart, he had no other choiсe but to find a sponsor, co-owner. KHL helped Vityaz (i guess the main reason was to soften 'em up), Mr. Golovkov became a new major co-owner and brought a new coach.
Probably Pavlinov and Golovkov had an agreement, Pavlinov brings toughness (Yabo & Gillies) and Golovkov takes care of getting to playoffs, so everybody is satisfied. But something went wrong in their relationship and Golovkov took over Vityaz.