Official hockeyfights.com All-Time Top 10

[Sasha]

Ivan Irwin??...Ivan the terrible! 6' 2 185lbs is pretty big for that time!...i was just looking at some of his stats!

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[EDDIESHORETOEBLAKE]

Well, I've received 31 ballots, and after 30 ballots, here are the standings . . .

(1) Probert 285
(2) Brown 244
(3) Wilson 240
(4) Gillies 162
(5) Fotiu 94
(6) Nystrom 91
(7) Playfair 90
(8T) Kocur 80
(8T) McSorley 80
(10) Jonathan 69

Keep em comin' folks . . . lets see if we can get 50 ballots . . .

[mick32]

I'm not bagging your choice of Playfair so much as asking to hear more about him. He's impressive in the little footage I have, surely, but I don't think I have enough of him to justify a high ranking. Guys like Playfair, Dan Maloney, and even Schultz, in my opinion, are hurt from lack of footage, as are guys like Gaetz, Mann, and Richter for their short shelf life. If I have fifteen minutes of Playfair, that would be a lot, so I'd better look into getting some more, based on these opinions.

[KingKrazy1012]

OK here goes.....

1. Probert
2. Brown
3. Gillies
4. Wilson
5. Jonathan
6. Berube
7. Kocur
8. McSorley
9. Fotiu
10. Grimson



The voices may not be real but they got some pretty good ideas !!!!

Third member of the Nazmania fan club !!!!!

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[Chainsaw Churla]

Larry Playfair fight card

78-79
6
Nystrom
Hutchison
Langway
Secord
Delorme
Zanussi

79-80
10
Holmgren
Plett 2x
Zanussi
O'Reilly
Mann 2x
Wilson
Vaive
Shmyr
PLAYOFFS
Ruskowski

80-81
7
Semenko
Burrows
Secord
Wensink 2x
Melrose
Korn
PLAYOFFS
Christoff
G.Smith

81-82
12
Peplinski
Kotsopoulos
Weir
Robertson
Williams
Melnyk 2x
Kerr
Secord 2x
Nilan
O'Reilly

82-83
7
Turnbull
Henderson
Krushelnyski
Higgins
Huber
B.Smith
Mann
PLAYOFFS
Nilan

83-84
13
Nilan 3x
O'Reilly
Kluzak 2x
Lumley
Turnbull
Rissling 2x
Robertson
Adams
Plett

84-85
7
Markwart
Curran
Tocchet
Chelios
Courtnall
Robertson
MacLellan
PLAYOFFS
Gillis

85-86
4
Rooney
Stewart
Kotsopoulos
Otto

86-87
7
Curran 2x
Henry
Nilan
Picard
Kerr
Johnston

87-88
9
Byers
McSorley
Gill McGill
McClelland
Ewen
Brubaker
Peplinski
Kastelic

88-89
3
Robertson
Mokosak
McRae

[Blues 34]

I think I posted late before so here they are again, they are off the cuff so Hopefully they are the same.

1.Bob Probert
2.Joey Kocur
3.Dave Brown
4.Tony Twist
5.Tie Domi- Scrach Domi and add Stu Grimson
6.Marty McSorley
7.John Kordic
8.Jay Miller
9.Sandy McCarthy
10.Chris Simon

The last two would have been much higher if they had stayed active My list is pretty current because I can really only go on 90-90 until now.
11-20
11.Tie Domi
12.Tim Hunter
13.Dave Semenko-By all rights he should be in the first 10 I just have not seen enough of his fights.
14.Troy Crowder
15.Todd Ewen
16.Craig Berube
17.Ken Baumgartner
18.Basil McRae
19.Lyndon Byers
20.Kelly Chase-balls of solid rock had to get him in here somwhere.

top 10 young guys
1.Georges Laraque
2.Peter Worrell
3.Donald Brashear
4.Chris McAllister
5.Scott Parker
6-10 in any order
Reed Low
Jody Shelley
Nathan Perrott
P.J. Stock
Steven Peat
blues fanatic, and biggest hater of Mccarty and the Wings.

Edited by - Blues 34 on Aug 13 2002 30538 PM

[BAMBAMCAM]

Kocur
Simon
Twist
Probert
Brown
Nystrom
Gillies
Kordic
Miller
Berube

[Sammy]

Chainsaw, add Semenko in for 82-83 pre-season. That's the second fight between Semenko and Playfair.

[jmiller]

Blues! Twist at #4 and McCarthy and Simon in the top 10 of all time???? Dont think so! Not even close especially with Twist. You are one major homer dude! I know what you are saying about Simons and McCarthys potential but if potential counted throw in Crowder, Gaetz etc.....

BamBamCam, that is the worst top 10 list I have ever seen. WTF is that? I am not even going to comment on that waste of bits and bytes. Try again.

NorthStar, you start off good but again what is this crap with Twist. He is not even top 20 IMO. McCrae in the top ten? Litte homerish would you not say? Odjick is completely laughable as a top 10 guy! He is no way near that status. Where is Plett and Churla? LOL!!!!

[jmiller]

Again,

Twist top 10? no
McRae top 10? no
Churla best adrelanine booster ever? no
Churla over Miller? no

Its simple.

Dude, I dont think there are many crediable posters on this site who agree with any of this nonsense. Also, why do you think it pisses me off if you take Churla over Miller? Why would that piss me off? Your drivel is just a little comical, thats all. Dont get too excited about your abilities here. You come on this site as a newbie and think your homerism is gonna piss me off. Do you think your the first guy to come on this site and rag on Jay Miller to try to get under my skin? Ummmmm, I think its been done before. Why do you think you are any different than any of the other retards who have tried to be "homer of the week" and just ended up in the "new looser poster category". You have already been warned by one long time member about your behavior.

Who cares if some homer chooses his fighter over another. I am not pissed off at all. Why should I care if your are unknowledgeable and refuse to listen to the vets on this board. Not one poster here agrees with you??? You refuse to back up any of your statements with facts. Its just the same Northstar homerism from you with every post. I am confused by your lack of fight knowledge and/or homerism and more so by your refusal to provide info on your choices. In addition you have a chance to learn a great deal here yet when I question your pics you start this gay "Jay Miller is my boy" garbage You keep refering to Miller as "my boy"....WTF does that mean?

Again, just trying to figure out if you have any clue. If you say you are so sure about all this put up a poll between Miller/Churla. Or how about one with Twist and McRae in being top 10? You gonna do it?

As for my top ten its in the appropriate column. Tell me what you dont like about it.





Edited by - jmiller on Aug 27 2002 41841 PM

[jmiller]

Oh, I see, those fighters are from another time and dont compare to your super heavyweights...Whatever! Yeah, Jonathan was a middleweight and never would have beaten any of your champs. Your hopeless!

[jmiller]

Good try there...not gonna work.

I know you said SJ would not take 5 but seeing you admitted you know nothing about that era how can you say anything about fighters from that era. Since your posts show that you know nothing really about this era, guess what...You know nothing about any era and look like an ass.

I am a homer becuase I put SJ at 5? Really again, admitting you know nothing about that era how can you dispute it so you look like an ass...Again! You at least have that maneuver down.

Lets see what next. "My Vet's ego" Hmmmm, ARE YOU ANALFABETHIC? Do I look like a vet here? Again, you look like an ass again? Cant read?

What else, This is fun. "Respect is a two way road"??? WTF? Really? I thought it was a two way street but you probably go both ways so it does not matter.

You are loggoed on this site as "Anonomus" Why are you hiding? I and the other posters know the answer so we dont have to ask.

Go tell us how you have been to the Boston Garden and you have seen the crowds reacting to Jay Miller and how it couldnt compare to the way the crowd reacted to when Shane Churla took to the ice and shook the rafters.
Yeah, your mindless homerism is really annoying...Yeah, you are definately the first person to try that stunt.

Or how about how Twist was a top ten fighter becuase.....He was Tony Twist right?

Or McCrae becuse.....He was a NorthStar right?

You have decided to bring this upon yourself becuse you show very little respect here. In addition you seem like an imature little jerkoff who is only interested in giving us your unknowledgable pics in every category while not bothering to try to learn anything from anyone. Its your choice. You can be a contributor here and learn if you want. Your call. I have never seen you back up one pick with any facts. Can you please give me a reason for your pics?

What is it gonna be Northstar, friend or foe. I am giving you every chance for redemption and if you ask around that is normally not like me. I would take advantage of my good mood today.



Edited by - jmiller on Aug 27 2002 15335 PM

[Wheresmyhat]

jmiller and Northstar,

I posted a question in "Who is the best fighter?" regarding the criteria people use to come up with top 10 lists. I'm curious what method you two use. I'm sure its different.

[The Reaper]

NStar You are entitled to your opinion, but with a list like that you should've expected trouble. Twist top 3???? I can't tell you how horrible that pick is. Grimson top 5??? I love the guy, but he does'nt scratch my current top 20. Kocur is a good one, but he card fails miserably when compared to McSorley's. BTW, If you don't think Jonathan could win at least 5 of 10 against some of the people on your list, I seriously urge you to pick up a tape of his. Lastly, ODJICK?????? LMAO!!! Really man, you should educate yourself because that is a horrendous pick.

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[Blues 34]

JMiller I am not upset about the critisism. the oldest tape I have is a two hour compilation of 70's fights and the bulk of what I do have is from 90-91 on so that is probably why the majority of my list is more current guys. Guys like Behn Wilson, Clark Gillies, Nick Fotiu and Bob Nystrom ect, I am sure they were grear fighters because they made damn near all of the lists, I would like to see footage of them so I could form my own opinion, But I would have felt like a bigger idiot commenting on fighters that I have seen so little of. I wasn't trying to homer it up I just have a limited field of footage to draw from compared to most of you.

blues fanatic,
"Most folk heroes started out as criminals" Reg Dunlop. Blues 34 formerly Known as C-carp.