John Kordic Play in Toronto

[blockerpunch]

A play about John Kordic is going to be on the stage in Toronto:

Next Stage Theatre Festival
Factory Theatre (125 Bathurst Street)
January 2–January 13
Various times. Check website for schedule.
$10–$15

http://torontoist.com/2013/01/at-the...key-and-music/

Just had this link sent to me so I thought I would post it for anyone that was interested (not sure if this is the right Forum but I figured the guys in Remember When would be more interested in talking about Kordic).

[spiderarms]

Tragic the way Kordic's career ended. He was a Top Flight fighter though and his hand speed took a backseat to almost no one. Had a terrific career with very few loses.

The one I wanted to see was with Bob Probert, but as we all know that never happened. His fight with Dave Brown was a disappointment as well and it seemed like the toxic demons were starting to get the best of him at that point.

I would have loved to have seen what he would have done in his next five years of his prime and SOBER!

[Blues 34]

Great action fighter, his series with Jay Miller is one of the best rivalries

[spiderarms]

Originally Posted by Blues 34

Great action fighter, his series with Jay Miller is one of the best rivalries

They fought many times and Kordic was one guy that gave Miller fits. Kordic's handspeed was tremendous and a real problem for Jay but they had quite a few classics as Jay's endurance was exceptional in Boston.

This maybe one of the best rivalries of all-time but I'd have to give the nod to Kordic. John Kordic in my opinion is a very underated fighter. His name comes up from time to time on this site but not often enough IMO.

[Blues 34]

I haven't watched their series in a long time so I don't know how I would score it. I do remember a lot of barn burners in the series.

Kordic also had a very good series with Basil McRae. The fight that stands out to me in that series occurred right by the player benches in Maple Leaf gardens.

[I like Boobs]

Kordic dominated the Miller series, despite what the clam eating ****s from Boston and New England will have you believe

Kordic's big problem was his complete lack of discipline. After his father passed away, he was virtually uncontrollable. Pat Burns couldn't get along with him at all and they had some pretty wild exchanges that were documented in the press. Montreal traded him to Toronto (ripping them off to get Courtnall) and he was actually still very solid fight wise although not quite as good as his first seasons in Montreal (just my opinion). His first year in Toronto I thought he fought more "B" squad guys, than had the shameful running from Probert incident, but dominated in his fights.

His second season in Toronto was pretty good as well, he was still fighting some "b" squad guys, but he also had big wins over guys like Tinordi, Crowder, McKay and McRae. Overall he was still winning his fights but his hand speed was slowing down a touch and he was a wreck off the ice. Washington and Quebec were not good to Kordic and he wasn't the same "Rambo" of old. Years of abuse and no conditioning were catching up and he used drugs to try to regain his old form.... With tragic results.

[zoli]

Originally Posted by Blues 34

Kordic also had a very good series with Basil McRae. The fight that stands out to me in that series occurred right by the player benches in Maple Leaf gardens.

Kordic and McRae had approx the same amount of fights against each other than Miller/Kordic but McRae didn't win any of those fights. Kordic even dropped him and beat him several times. McRae only managed to get a draw here and there. I agree, that Kordic-McRae fight was the best of them all, a true classic.

Kordic was still very solid in Toronto and I believe he didn't lose one fight. Ok, maybe the Kimble/Twist fights could be scored against him, but other than that he looked very good in the Maple Leaf uniform. He had several incidents with coaches, teammates (Osbourne I think the guy's name was) and other stupid penalties for jumping someone. But he had a couple of solid fights, his last one with Miller in a Tor-La game, a criminally underrated and not so known fight with the rookie Kelly Chase which he won, another quick and not so famous fight against the always 'tough to handle' Robert Dirk. Probably his most memorable fight along with the McRae one is the fight with Troy Crowder. Actually this was one of the first hockeyfights I ever saw on video (keep in mind that was around 2004, here in Slovakia the internet was pretty much non-existent in most of the homes that time so I watched it during one of the high schools classes). Just a terrific fight and was a fan since (another interesting story that I never knew there was another Kordic, so I checked Dan Kordic's player profile in one of the computer games and i was wondering why he isn't listed in a career statistics as a Toronto player).

He wasn't as good in the AHL though when he was sent down after the Kimble fight, during the early stages of the 90-91 season. I have an interview where he said he needs to find the passion again. Actually he was knocked down by non other than Dan Frawley. He was definitely not the same after he was traded away, had some crazy moments down on the farm, attacking non-fighters and the announcers even called him out for it.

This was just a tragic story and I always felt some sympathy for Rambo. The guy was barely 27 years old.

[solidus12]

Kordic dominated the Miller series, despite what the clam eating ****s from Boston and New England will have you believe

You got that right.

[spiderarms]

Originally Posted by I like Boobs

Kordic dominated the Miller series, despite what the clam eating ****s from Boston and New England will have you believe

Kordic's big problem was his complete lack of discipline. After his father passed away, he was virtually uncontrollable. Pat Burns couldn't get along with him at all and they had some pretty wild exchanges that were documented in the press. Montreal traded him to Toronto (ripping them off to get Courtnall) and he was actually still very solid fight wise although not quite as good as his first seasons in Montreal (just my opinion). His first year in Toronto I thought he fought more "B" squad guys, than had the shameful running from Probert incident, but dominated in his fights.

His second season in Toronto was pretty good as well, he was still fighting some "b" squad guys, but he also had big wins over guys like Tinordi, Crowder, McKay and McRae. Overall he was still winning his fights but his hand speed was slowing down a touch and he was a wreck off the ice. Washington and Quebec were not good to Kordic and he wasn't the same "Rambo" of old. Years of abuse and no conditioning were catching up and he used drugs to try to regain his old form.... With tragic results.

Kordic had a very impressive won-loss record and at 27 years old, the sky was the limit. You are 100% correct, TRAGIC.

He did have some losses but overall, very few "bad defeats". Jimmy MAC caught him a few times, Tie Domi and Dave Brown but there's no disgrace in losing to those guys.

Most of his fights were action packed and he had a great chin and good balance. But as you so clearly stated, his biggest fight was not against a hockey player!

[mitch65]

Originally Posted by I like Boobs

Kordic dominated the Miller series, despite what the clam eating ****s from Boston and New England will have you believe

Kordic's big problem was his complete lack of discipline. After his father passed away, he was virtually uncontrollable. Pat Burns couldn't get along with him at all and they had some pretty wild exchanges that were documented in the press. Montreal traded him to Toronto (ripping them off to get Courtnall) and he was actually still very solid fight wise although not quite as good as his first seasons in Montreal (just my opinion). His first year in Toronto I thought he fought more "B" squad guys, than had the shameful running from Probert incident, but dominated in his fights.

His second season in Toronto was pretty good as well, he was still fighting some "b" squad guys, but he also had big wins over guys like Tinordi, Crowder, McKay and McRae. Overall he was still winning his fights but his hand speed was slowing down a touch and he was a wreck off the ice. Washington and Quebec were not good to Kordic and he wasn't the same "Rambo" of old. Years of abuse and no conditioning were catching up and he used drugs to try to regain his old form.... With tragic results.

I didn't see him as running from Probert.....

[I like Boobs]

I did, and so did most of the people who saw the incident. Probert saw him that morning and tried to suck up to the champ. From Kordic's book:

Here is the exact paragraph from the John Kordic story "The Fight of his Life"

" ....He often dropped into the Cafe' behind the Arena .... On one occasion, Bob Probert was sitting inside with his lawyer Patrick Ducharme, waiting for an order. Ducharme had been asked by the Red Wings to accompany the team on road trips, to help keep Probert out of trouble. John, instantly recognizing the NHL's widely acclaimed number one enforcer, walked by and said 'Hi Bob, how's it goin, hope you have a good game tonight.' ... Probert never raised his head, never took his eyes off his coffee cup. When John left, Ducharme wondered why his client behaved so poorly. 'He just doesn't want to f*cking fight me tonight', Probert snorted.

Visual proof, Probert chased him all over before this clip gets started as well:

Bob Probert vs John Kordic - YouTube