Big Bad Bruins vs Broad Street Bullies

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by Stevens Lindros

Flyers hands down.

Great insight, care to elaborate? Actually don't bother.

[Stevens Lindros]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

Great insight, care to elaborate? Actually don't bother.

Fight-wise and in terms of influence on other teams there really is no contest.

[Flyer_Frank]

Originally Posted by bigjack

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Officials
Referee: Bruce Hood
Linesman: Matt Pavelich
Linesman: Jim Christison


Gutless bastard Bruce Hood!

What are the odds?

Turn 'em loose Bruce . . . a nickname well earned.

A lot of fans hate the instigator penalty, but it's stuff like that video that eventually brought it about. I might be the only fan in hockey who's OK with it. I just think if a guy messes around and you have to send a message, take the damn instigator and kill it off. They hand out so damn many minors for nothing anyway, put the team first and take the minor.

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by Flyer_Frank

Turn 'em loose Bruce . . . a nickname well earned.

A lot of fans hate the instigator penalty, but it's stuff like that video that eventually brought it about. I might be the only fan in hockey who's OK with it. I just think if a guy messes around and you have to send a message, take the damn instigator and kill it off. They hand out so damn many minors for nothing anyway, put the team first and take the minor.

I've always felt that way, if something needs to be dealt with, do it and kill the penalty! Stop letting the league deal with rule breakers.

The instigator has its place but it's very subjective whether they give it out or not. I think it should be given out when a guy jumps another guy, real obvious, not when a guy skates 30 yards to another and they drop the gloves after a questionable hit. Yeah, it's obvious the guy is starting a fight but if they both drop the gloves, what's the problem? So silly to get an extra 2 minutes for doing what needs to be done.

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by mikebflorida

I've always felt that way, if something needs to be dealt with, do it and kill the penalty! Stop letting the league deal with rule breakers.

The instigator has its place but it's very subjective whether they give it out or not. I think it should be given out when a guy jumps another guy, real obvious, not when a guy skates 30 yards to another and they drop the gloves after a questionable hit. Yeah, it's obvious the guy is starting a fight but if they both drop the gloves, what's the problem? So silly to get an extra 2 minutes for doing what needs to be done.

I hear you guys in the obvious situations but in that Schultz situation with Middleton, he should of received a 5 minute major penalty and game misconduct and that would of been it. Instead he gets 7 and Middleton, who was mugged, somehow got 5!
That was ridiculous and it's what the Flyers got away with. Give the Rangers a 5 minute major PP and kick Schultz out and the BS would of stopped rather quickly!
The referees were gutless in Philadelphia!

[Flyer_Frank]

Originally Posted by mikebflorida

I've always felt that way, if something needs to be dealt with, do it and kill the penalty! Stop letting the league deal with rule breakers.

The instigator has its place but it's very subjective whether they give it out or not. I think it should be given out when a guy jumps another guy, real obvious, not when a guy skates 30 yards to another and they drop the gloves after a questionable hit. Yeah, it's obvious the guy is starting a fight but if they both drop the gloves, what's the problem? So silly to get an extra 2 minutes for doing what needs to be done.

Yeah, the rule is OK, it doesn't get called right a lot just like every other rule. We had a play with Gagne his last year here. Volchenkov runs him from behind, no call, and Gagne gets pissed and kicks his ass. Volchenkov gets nothing, Gagne gets 2 5 and a game for sticking up for himself. I mean it's Simon Gagne! Crap call.

Simon Gagne vs Anton Volchenkov Mar 23, 2010 -...

That code stuff getting talked about in another thread, a lot of that came after the instigator rule with guys talking more first. That's where that started. Before instigator, guys got pissed and just started kicking ass, no engraved invitation.

[nyrpack]

in there era, the broadstreet bullies were just that, they were the toughest because they had a wolfpack mentality, they didnt have one guy you feared as much as one team you feared, if you touched bobby clarke you were a goner, if you had a one on one with anybody and you got the better of that flyer you were gonna get 3 manned in on, thats why they were so lethal because they came off the bench constantly and always stuck up for each other !!

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by nyrpack

in there era, the broadstreet bullies were just that, they were the toughest because they had a wolfpack mentality, they didnt have one guy you feared as much as one team you feared, if you touched bobby clarke you were a goner, if you had a one on one with anybody and you got the better of that flyer you were gonna get 3 manned in on, thats why they were so lethal because they came off the bench constantly and always stuck up for each other !!

The irony is the 1979 team had better fighters in Holmgren, Wilson, and Bridgman but the 1974/75 teams acted like you write here! It was one for all and all for one and if that doesn't work, the sticks of Clarke, Van Impe, Dornhoefer and Dupont did just fine! The Moose was King of the crosscheck in the back and Van Impe loved any stickwork!

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by Cat Smasher

very true but check this out, if I were to change just one word in your reply, the same would apply.

The difference is Bobby Orr could and would fight and Bobby Clarke was full of sh*t and a rat bastard.
I remember game one of the 1973 playoffs in Boston when Teddy Irvine went after Orr and took him off the ice for 5 minutes and the Rangers scored three quick goals. Gordon and Chadwick were applauding Teddy and it was a great play and no Bruins went after Irvine.

[bigjack]

Right after this fight a 2-1 Ranger lead became 5-1 with 3 quick goals!

Bobby Orr vs Ted Irvine - YouTube

[acdcrocksno1]

Originally Posted by bigjack

The difference is Bobby Orr could and would fight and Bobby Clarke was full of sh*t and a rat bastard.
I remember game one of the 1973 playoffs in Boston when Teddy Irvine went after Orr and took him off the ice for 5 minutes and the Rangers scored three quick goals. Gordon and Chadwick were applauding Teddy and it was a great play and no Bruins went after Irvine.

Thats complete and utter bull**** Clarke could and would fight

[Broons66]

Originally Posted by acdcrocksno1

Thats complete and utter bull**** Clarke could and would fight

What would you know? Seriously, your going to argue with a poster who has first hand knowledge? Other than a 2 hr VH tape I bought in 90, that's really my only knowledge of the Big Bad Bruins and Orr. Orr could fight, no doubt.

[nyrpack]

Originally Posted by acdcrocksno1

Thats complete and utter bull**** Clarke could and would fight

clarke didnt fight, he would hit you with the stick and then hide behind one of there tough guys, all the fighting majors he had were probably during bench clearers , im sure he found the dale rolfs of the world and act tough !!

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by Broons66

What would you know? Seriously, your going to argue with a poster who has first hand knowledge? Other than a 2 hr VH tape I bought in 90, that's really my only knowledge of the Big Bad Bruins and Orr. Orr could fight, no doubt.

I'm laughing that Clarke could and would fight. Compared to who-Rat Linseman?
What a joke!

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by nyrpack

clarke didnt fight, he would hit you with the stick and then hide behind one of there tough guys, all the fighting majors he had were probably during bench clearers , im sure he found the dale rolfs of the world and act tough !!

The same game where Schultz mugged Middleton, Derek Sanderson went after Clarke and Clarke got his ass kicked. On the air, Bill Big Whistle Chadwick was mocking Clarke and the Flyers saying hey it's Philadelphia and noone is allowed to touch Bobby Clarke!
Clarke was King stickman!
I'll see if that fight exists anywhere. Sanderson gets the jump and Clarke did sh*t!

Here is that fight!

derek sanderson at bobby clarke - YouTube