Bad Call, that decision is not mine!

[Phila26Flyers]

Originally Posted by Killah_punk

Here's the slowmo of the fight. @1:11 Asham lands a bomb on Cote's jaw.

Cote - Asham (slowmo) 11/8/2007 - YouTube

A bomb? Not a chance. That punch glanced off Cote's jaw because Cote started turning his head just before the punch got there. That was hardly a bomb as some people called it then and now. It glanced off his jaw and knocked Cote off balance to set up the supposed "knock down" punch that followed. That slow-mo video just proves the punch grazed Cote's jaw. Cote dominated the rest of the fight.

Like the Brashear-Laraque fight that is being hotly debated in this thread, one punch at the end does not flip a fight that was otherwise controlled by the other fighter (unless it's a KO).

[smashem]

Shawn Thornton vs Matt Kassian Feb 19, 2012 -...

Even as a huge Bruins fan, I am not a backer of Thorts. But after a huge start from Kass he hangs on for dear life in this one. Kinda gassed out with Thort's coming back.

[Broons66]

Good one smash. I thought Thorts came back and gained a draw in that bout. I mean those looping overhand rights by Kassian looked menacing, but nothing really connected, imo. Thorts went "Jay Miller" on Kassian, threw some in close punches at the end that you could tell made ol' Kassian lose his initial advantage.

[ewen21]

Originally Posted by srehm1

Win McSorley...

Clark got a couple in and then he bailed.

[Boston Garden]

Gotta agree on the Thornton vs. Kassian fight, looked like a draw.

A couple others that I thought were draws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXkPURR-4P4

Vitale was awarded the win by the voters presumably for that KD shove

From the same game, While Niskanen was more active I thought Marchand landed a few good shots to make this a draw. I'm sure Marchand was deducted due to the slewfoot that preceded the fight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VPKN8rvvwY

Just a few others that I saw as draws...contrary to voting.

Wideman vs Latendresse Apr 3, 2007 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU_ir-veRp4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFxQQNSx04g

PingPang must have voted on these draws, that were voted wins for Huggy I guess for flailing around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T_NklNFYGQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s6PC7_wcDc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKA6hWT2BME

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HonwZd4k62k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtRq8KT2tE

Never really thought Brashears flailing hooks and rabbit punches ever did any damage. Give him credit for activity I guess...

P.S. I always thought Dale Arnold was a decent play by play guy for the Bruins.

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by srehm1

Win McSorley...

Marty wins the fight, Clark tagged him a couple of times with good punches, he certainly should have as he has the usual jump on his opponent but Marty in control and landing the whole fight gets the nod from me too.

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

Gotta agree on the Thornton vs. Kassian fight, looked like a draw.

A couple others that I thought were draws.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXkPURR-4P4
Vitale was awarded the win by the voters presumably for that KD shove

From the same game, While Niskanen was more active I thought Marchand landed a few good shots to make this a draw. I'm sure Marchand was deducted due to the slewfoot that preceded the fight.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VPKN8rvvwY

Just a few others that I saw as draws...contrary to voting.
Wideman vs Latendresse Apr 3, 2007 - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU_ir-veRp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFxQQNSx04g

PingPang must have voted on these draws, that were voted wins for Huggy I guess for flailing around.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T_NklNFYGQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_s6PC7_wcDc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKA6hWT2BME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HonwZd4k62k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKtRq8KT2tE

Never really thought Brashears flailing hooks and rabbit punches ever did any damage. Give him credit for activity I guess...

P.S. I always thought Dale Arnold was a decent play by play guy for the Bruins.

Atypical Brashear "fights". Hug, noogie, noogie, noogie, Hug, let linesmen come in or fall down/bail.

He's got dozens and dozens of "fights" like that on his resume but I guess he gets "credit" for being active, bigger, and stronger than most of his opponents. It's why I can't rank him in the top 5 and never will.

And punches to the helmet don't hurt, it's why players wear helmets. Duh.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by pingpang69

Again, for the umpteenth time, Brashear's final punch landed on Laraque's forehead, you can tell if you watch it in slo-mo. Besides, punches to the helmet can still hurt. I can tell you've never been in a hockey fight. Why would you be better off explaining this to your dog? Maybe something on your intelligence level perhaps? Considering you're a Bruins fan, I wouldn't be surprised. Brashear won the fight fair and square, and I'm glad most people see it that way.

Do you have a still shot? Or a link to the slo-mo you keep referring too that definitively shows Huggy's punch land on Laraque's forehead? Yeah a punch to the helmet can hurt-but not TKO somebody like you think happened. At least I don't hide behind being a Bruins fan...unlike you who says he's a Blues fan but has a very pro-Flyers agenda. Plus you fit the mold of a Flyers fan so stop acting impartial. Keep in mind I don't like either fighter, but call a spade a spade.

Originally Posted by [B

So I brush off Brashear getting KO'ed from a cheap shot[/b]? Really? You're making perfect sense per usual. Stop sniffing glue, take a step back, and re-evaluate your life kid. I almost feel sorry for you.

I was referring to Huggy getting put down in that fight time after time against Laraque. Take your own advice and stop sympathizing with Huggy, he had it coming to him.


[quote=Must hurt watching your precious Bruins get beat on. Hahahahahaha. If you wanna look at draws just for the sake of them, you might as well watch Shawn Thornton's fights.[/QUOTE]

LOL yeah get beat on with little rabbit punches.

I guess I'd rather watch a Shawn Thornton draw...than a Donald Brashear hug-fest, and if I wanted to watch a one sided beating I could just watch Riley Cote get tuned up.

[JJR]

I'd be interested in everyone's take on this fight, the only time they fought twice in one game. After that first fight the crowd was all excited and the Hockey News blurb had clark with this glorious victory. As I saw hit, he got the usual jump, threw a bunch of punches, may be a few landed, Probie spent some time adjusting his helmet and getting mad then threw two big rights that knocked Clark down, and then the linesman came in before he could hit him again. I could be biased so I figured I'd see what the posters thought.

Also, I think if you asked Laraque and Huggy on the way to the box which one thought that fight was a mistake it would have been huggy.

[srehm1]

Originally Posted by JJR

I'd be interested in everyone's take on this fight, the only time they fought twice in one game. After that first fight the crowd was all excited and the Hockey News blurb had clark with this glorious victory. As I saw hit, he got the usual jump, threw a bunch of punches, may be a few landed, Probie spent some time adjusting his helmet and getting mad then threw two big rights that knocked Clark down, and then the linesman came in before he could hit him again. I could be biased so I figured I'd see what the posters thought.

Also, I think if you asked Laraque and Huggy on the way to the box which one thought that fight was a mistake it would have been huggy.

I remember one of those rights appeared to absolutely floor Clark-BUT-a linesman was in the way and it never came up on replay. Would love to see another angle of that fight. I always felt that if that right landed-win probie. However, just the great start by clark and how pumped the crowd was after that fight always led me to believe that the punch missed. but who knows? Maybe it did land. My Kingdom for another camera angle of that fight!

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by pingpang69

I don't even know how you can take yourself seriously. You're a joke.



Thank you for proving my point. It's obvious you've never been in a hockey fight, let alone play hockey.

LOL

Are you Bench Clearer reincarnated? You post just like he does and are adamant about how great Brashear is and it's funny, I have him at number 7 all time and you have him at number 6, a top 10 all time NHL fighter!!

What's wrong with that? He'd be higher if he didn't bail in fights, seat belt fights, show very little heart in so many of his fights, and generally act like a douchebag most of his career although that last part doesn't really matter in terms of rankings.

Facts are I rank him as one of the all time best and am more than happy to criticize him for his style and his attitude and that's it, end of story. it's not a joke and I'm certainly not a joke, I've been watching hockey fights since the 80's and since youtube became available, have watched hundreds, if not thousands of fight videos, it's a great hobby, so your attitude towards me is not only wrong but not welcome here. Tone it down and just enjoy the knowledge from the many posters here who are smarter than you, I certainly do and there is no need to be rude and call people names who say something you might not like.

[mikebflorida]

No, you really don't need to keep me in check, it's not your job. You're welcome to disagree but it's how you do it that gets on people's nerves.

Brashear didn't beat my favorite fighter, just so you know. Dave Brown is my favorite fighter with Probert a close 2nd. There are probably 50+ guys, if not more, who I like better than him but I give the devil his due.

I'm not worried about who he beat, he has a terriffic fight card and anyone acting the way he does would have a long line of guys lining up to try and kick his butt. It's why Marty clubbed him and it's why I have Marty ahead of him all-time at number 6 because Marty had more heart in his pinkie toe than Brash had in his his whole body. Marty clubbing Brash was akin to Domi sucker punching Ulfie, lots of guys wanted to do it and someone finally did and no matter what anyone says, they deserved what they got.

I know there are guys who were better than him and he comes in at number 7 and that's generous enough. I'm not going to supply all of the evidence of why he isn't higher, others have done that, I don't have the time for it, but I know his bails and fighting on his terms and the way he fought makes him not as good as the guys above him.

Being a Flyers fan myself, 5 of my favorites were Brown, Wilson, Schultz, Tocchet, and Berube, I SHOULD like Brashear but I don't care what team he plays for, the guy was an a$$hole, bottom line, and I never liked anyone like that. I don't doubt their talent though.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by pingpang69

The slo-mo clip is somewhere on youtube, I will try and find it for you. Besides, whether it hurt Laraque or not, only Laraque knows, but what we do know is that it caused Laraque's knees to buckle and down he went.

BGL popped right back up after that punch, awesome logic btw Laraque puts down Brash 2-3 times and yet he didn't hurt him....yet Brash throws a wild punch and BGL's knees buckled and it hurt him! Classic.


[quote=You got one thing right that's for sure, and hell, you might as well call yourself Derek Sanderson or Jack Edwards, maybe you're a Derek Edwards hybrid? Ouch. I am a Flyers homer, by the way, I guess the Blues were what that selection defaulted to.[/quote]

You have an odd obsession with Donald Brashear, you're not objective.

[quote=Dude, there you go again. He was put down once and very quickly got back up. You can tell the punch didn't faze him.[/quote]

BGL got up very quickly after Huggy's punch....so I guess it didn't faze him either then right?

Originally Posted by So you'd rather watch a [player=299

Shawn Thornton[/player] draw than Brashear rag-doll and pummel someone all over the ice? Then again, I am talking to a massive Bruins homer so that is the response I expect from you. It must suck seeing Brashear beat up your boy Thornton.

Well you see, say what you will but Shawn Thornton is just a tad more willing to go T2T with someone than Huggy....so yeah I would rather watch an entertaining back and fourth fight rather than Brash trying to eat his opponent. Your man crush never beat up Thornton...get over it.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

Well you see, say what you will but Shawn Thornton is just a tad more willing to go T2T with someone than Huggy....so yeah I would rather watch an entertaining back and fourth fight rather than Brash trying to eat his opponent. Your man crush never beat up Thornton...get over it.

Honest question, do you rank Donald Brashear higher than Shawn Thornton all time?

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

Honest question, do you rank Donald Brashear higher than Shawn Thornton all time?

I'm not really into the all-time list thing, but to answer your question....no. That's not what I was implying either, IMO Thornton is more entertaining-not including antics (completely subjective I know) and I thought he handled himself well against Brashear....That's all.