Why are the Canucks hated?

[FurnaceFace]

The media in vancouver wants to know....

Tony gallagher on comcast

Tony Gallagher and Shawn Thornton Square Off -...

Ed willes article in the province :NHL's most hated? Canucks don't deserve rap
http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Wi...934/story.html

I for one, as a canucks fan will tell you my opinion....
Team toughness = soft. how many times this season have we seen Roberto get run? the Sedins? A canuck turtle or hide behind a ref? excessive Goating? Dale Weise the other night in Boston also against L.A's Kyle Clifford. Sedin saying on air that the power play is the teams enforcer. the fact is anyone can almost take something from every game the canucks played in this season and have something that can be pointed out. From matt cooke when he was here to some of jarkko ruutu antics, and now maxim lappierre , dale weise and burrows. how many years has the canucks taken a light weight fighter or middle weight fight and call him our heavy weight because he is a player who does drop the gloves and watch him get beaten down by someone who is a real heavyweight. That demoralizes our team and rep as well, also ruins what would of been a good career for someone if slotted into the proper role.

The hate has brewed over the history of nucks, from when we did have respectable teams. We were hated because of the rough-tough battles. A hate you can be proud of, hence rivalries and why they are the most watched games. the other side of the hate comes in part of which was mentioned above.

Also the media doesnt help either. Take in point tony the other night, real good he did trying to stick up for a player on enemy soil. in my opinion he only made himself look real stupid and all the follow ups on that just shows how most of these guys covering hockey and some for quite some time , shouldn't comment on certain aspects of the game at all. Media in vancouver is huge, so the canucks are on a big stage , we are in the public eye. also with the media, players on other teams go on air and dumping all over the canucks. whats to come of them? nothing. why its happened more than once this year !!! which takes me to team toughness. I put on a teams sweater, I become that team, and you dump on that im coming back to dump on you. people hear the news or read an article and see someone spouting off, see reactions and form opinions. True most if not all of the media garbage is blown off by players and has nothing to do with the game. but we are talking about why this team is hated.

So....... there is some of it.

[srehm1]

Great team with great players. Seems like they are indeed trying to go the 'power play' route as far as enforcing is concerned.

The stanley cup finals last year really exposed them for how soft and cheap they can be. At least to me. Seeing marchand speed bag sedin like that with no real response was embarrassing. Burrows biting bergeron-embarrassing. Vigneault whining about Marchand-while he has Burrows, Lapierre on the team-embarrassing. 6 Canucks jumping on one bruin-embarrassing. weise blatantly turning down Thornton-embarrassing. Sedin talking about how tough the Canucks are-embarrassing. Vancouver media defending how soft the team is and how bad a tough team like boston is-embarrassing. Cancuks diving and emballishing-embarrassing. Gallagher getting schooled by thornton-embarrassing.

This is why I think people hate the canucks. I think most fans would embrace toughness and manly play in the game of hockey since it has been a staple of the game since it's inception. Seeing a team embrace the exact opposite the way vancouver has, I think is the reason why they are hated by many.

A great team-but one with a flawed organizational philosophy when it comes to toughness, fighting and intimidation.

[Orr4]

Best comment from the second article you posted:

"Remember that punk at school that would punch an unsuspecting kid, then
run to teachers when the kid turned around? That punk was a Canuck."

At least everyone likes Manny Malholtra, they got that going for them.

[canuck2]

They are a despicable team. they represent the antithesis of what hockey should be.
too many weasels. Too many soft players.
they represent what I dislike about today's hockey.

[kam]

The Sedin aliens, Burrows and Lappierre pretty much do it for me.

[bruiser11]

That year they had Odjick, Antoski, and Tim Hunter were the days.

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by Orr4

Best comment from the second article you posted:

At least everyone likes Manny Malholtra, they got that going for them.

he's done some things or hasnt done some thing and has found his way into my dog house.. after his injury he is a shell of his former self.. and wasnt too long ago he ripped into someone for sticking up for a teammate. joining in on the anti fighting crowd. since then i lost alot respect for him and wouldnt care if he was gone tomorrow. plus he's the worst plus minus on the team. trade bait????

[fcm]

They are, with the Canadiens, the Lightnings, the Hurricanes, the Sabres, the Red Wings, the Blues, the Islanders, the Jets, the Stars, the Avalanches, the Wilds and the Maple Leafs, what hockey should not have been.

[AAB]

If Lappy and Weise are out of the equation, and they replaced them with 2 guys to answer the bell for Burrows, they might be a better hockey team. 1 tough D-man and the Nucks are close to Lord Stanley.

I read on some site this week a trade between the Isles and Nucks, Schneider, Ballard and Raymond for Ox, Martin and Harmonic. In a heartbeat. Instant toughness that this team has been missing.

Mike G. has been a good GM, however his forte is as a players agent. I don't think he realizes some of the nuances of the game, like being soft in tough games, and absolutley no eye for an eye mentality. Sedin speed bagged by Marchand would not have sat well with Mike Keenans Canucks.

You can ride the power play will make them pay so long, at some point someone has to settle the score physically.

[BobNystromOwnsU]

Originally Posted by fcm

They are, with the Canadiens, the Lightnings, the Hurricanes, the Sabres, the Red Wings, the Blues, the Islanders, the Jets, the Stars, the Avalanches, the Wilds and the Maple Leafs, what hockey should not have been.

No comparison. Most if any of those team don't have the rats that vancouver has.

[FightingIsGood]

Originally Posted by fcm

They are, with the Canadiens, the Lightnings, the Hurricanes, the Sabres, the Red Wings, the Blues, the Islanders, the Jets, the Stars, the Avalanches, the Wilds and the Maple Leafs, what hockey should not have been.

The Blues, Stars and Leafs? Huh?

Anyway, none of those teams are even in the same universe as the Canucks. Not even Detroit.

[HordiBrusk29]

If you have to ask WHY the Canucks are hated it's clearly obvious you don't understand the game of hockey. It's really that simple. Considering the source of the article (The Province) it all makes sense.

[FurnaceFace]

i also forgot to mention. Our captain. Then stan smyl , trevor linden as captain , you bet cha, good choice. mark messier , sure. then markus naslund , roberto loungo fallowed by hendric sedin. the first 3 obvious choices for captain. the last three. kinda a joke. in my opinion a captain lays it all on the line , fights , is a presence on the ice, leads and leads by example. Ryan kesler would of been the better choice for current canucks, inside the lockeroom is another story which i cannot comment on, from what i've heard tho markus was quiet but when he spoke he uttered those famous words ""WE CHOKED"". a goalie as captain, yes i do remember canucks being a laughing stock over that. now hendric .An ""A"" on his sweater i have no problem with. the ""C"" i dunno. Anyway you have it tho, i accept and EMBRACE the canucks decisions.

[FurnaceFace]

Originally Posted by HordiBrusk29

If you have to ask WHY the Canucks are hated it's clearly obvious you don't understand the game of hockey. It's really that simple. Considering the source of the article (The Province) it all makes sense.

like i said, media is another reason to hate the vancouver canuck org. in the canuck forumm we have already talked about how fuct the sport shows and callers are at times.... not to mention aswell the cast at CDC.

[HordiBrusk29]

Originally Posted by FurnaceFace

like i said, media is another reason to hate the vancouver canuck org. in the canuck forumm we have already talked about how fuct the sport shows and callers are at times.... not to mention aswell the cast at CDC.

The media is really brutal here. Sometimes I wonder if that's also why a lot of the fans are clueless and out to lunch. They get their information from a bunch of incompetent hacks. After so long you start to believe the crap that is constantly being spewed.