Players: Rangers-Devils brawl old-time hockey

[Orr=God]

I like Janssen but he seems like a strange and very stupid guy. Talks funny and does weird things with his face and head while talking.

Still I like his general attitude although not sure why he is calling out Dubinsky. Dubi has fought Clarkson twice this year and gotten his ass kicked by Carter. He didn't need to fight there and was injured on top of that.

[hazard5]

Originally Posted by Orr=God

I like Janssen but he seems like a strange and very stupid guy. Talks funny and does weird things with his face and head while talking.

Still I like his general attitude although not sure why he is calling out Dubinsky. Dubi has fought Clarkson twice this year and gotten his ass kicked by Carter. He didn't need to fight there and was injured on top of that.

AND...

Carter fights LESS than Dubinsky. So why can't Dubinsky line up against him? Because he fought him once and lost? Dubinsky can't ever line up against anyone he has ever fought before? Carter is not an enforcer, but Bickel is. Bickel has over 35 fights in his last two season and Torts insisted that he line up against Carter.

I don't think you Ranger fans know what the fack you are talking about. Carter is as much of a fighter as Callahan.

[Orr=God]

Originally Posted by hazard5

AND...

Carter fights LESS than Dubinsky. So why can't Dubinsky line up against him? Because he fought him once and lost? Dubinsky can't ever line up against anyone he has ever fought before? Carter is not an enforcer, but Bickel is. Bickel has over 35 fights in his last two season and Torts insisted that he line up against Carter.

I don't think you Ranger fans know what the fack you are talking about. Carter is as much of a fighter as Callahan.

Dubinsky has a hurt schnoz from the beating at the hand of carter. He said he can't fight for a while and missed two games. I would say Carter is a lower tier MW who stepped a bit out of his class against Bickel but still did fairly well.

[Kid Roberts]

Janssen did say that Dubinsky may be hurt...


*Disclaimer* I'm not a fan of Janssen or Dubinsky.

[demodogpack]

Janssen is 0-4-4 this year, wow. I saw him fight Rupp of the starting face-off and when he started nailing him with rights Rupp calls the linesman in. The Rangers go and acquire Scott, and guess who fights him, bam bam. He also corked him with a couple of rights, and you guessed it Scott call the refs in. Rupp played for the Devils and was a beotch then and is still one. He uses his size and reach and then after throwing 5 punches either falls down or calls the stripes in. You guys traded for Scott for a reason. I'm pretty sure it wasn't because of Pitt or Philly, it was because of the Devils. They hate each other and fight, what the hell is anyone complaining about, and how the hell can you be a fight fan and dislike Janssen. Hope they meet up in the second round and brawl somemore. I can't belive people on this site actually bitch about people who fight.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by demodogpack

Janssen is 0-4-4 this year, wow. I saw him fight Rupp of the starting face-off and when he started nailing him with rights Rupp calls the linesman in. The Rangers go and acquire Scott, and guess who fights him, bam bam. He also corked him with a couple of rights, and you guessed it Scott call the refs in. Rupp played for the Devils and was a beotch then and is still one. He uses his size and reach and then after throwing 5 punches either falls down or calls the stripes in. You guys traded for Scott for a reason. I'm pretty sure it wasn't because of Pitt or Philly, it was because of the Devils. They hate each other and fight, what the hell is anyone complaining about, and how the hell can you be a fight fan and dislike Janssen. Hope they meet up in the second round and brawl somemore. I can't belive people on this site actually bitch about people who fight.

Where was that line in bold when we had a thread in You See Them Brawl? for a game with three fights off the opening faceoff and all a couple Devil fans and one Flyer fan with his Devil pom poms wanted to talk about was Torts reaction on the bench. Why didn't you speak up then? A great incident and all a few wanted to talk about was the coach of the team with the most fights in the league. That was far worse than having some fun in this thread.

[nyrgoal]

Originally Posted by demodogpack

Janssen is 0-4-4 this year, wow. I saw him fight Rupp of the starting face-off and when he started nailing him with rights Rupp calls the linesman in. The Rangers go and acquire Scott, and guess who fights him, bam bam. He also corked him with a couple of rights, and you guessed it Scott call the refs in. Rupp played for the Devils and was a beotch then and is still one. He uses his size and reach and then after throwing 5 punches either falls down or calls the stripes in. You guys traded for Scott for a reason. I'm pretty sure it wasn't because of Pitt or Philly, it was because of the Devils. They hate each other and fight, what the hell is anyone complaining about, and how the hell can you be a fight fan and dislike Janssen. Hope they meet up in the second round and brawl somemore. I can't belive people on this site actually bitch about people who fight.

Haha ye thats right because Bickel, Prust and Rupp havent handled those oh so powerful Devils at all this year.

Come on man your smarter than that.

Ps if thats why we got Scott, why didnt he play last game against the Devils?

[Janssen25]

I see why Ranger fans LOVE Torts with all his whining and crying. Rag fans seem to have embraced this persona and this thread is an example of it. Are you really that blinded that you can't see a difference between these two situations?

Janssen's earned his right to call people out, especially a guy like Dubinsky who moved to defense so a proven fighter can fight his battle with Ryan fuking Carter of all people. If he still had a busted nose then he could have just not fought.

Not to mention that what Janssen said wasn't false by any means. All he said was that Dubinsky could have taken that fight, implying that it wasn't a mismatch, which it wasn't. He even went on to say " maybe he was injured" as a reason why he didn't take the fight although I think that was a subtle shot he took at Dubinsky knowing he was injured with a busted nose from his last fight with Carter.

Comparing that to Dubinsky saying, "Clarkson turns down tougher guys" is ridiculous and totally false btw. Who has Dubinsky fought that earns him the right to make an accusation like that especially about someone like Clarkson who clearly has fought tough guys and has a fight card filled with tough players?

Again I give Dubinsky credit for dropping the gloves throughout his career. However, he needs to just shut up.

The Rangers did everything right on the ice. I don't even have a problem with moving Bickel to Center. The Devils wanted to make a statement and the Rangers responded. It was a great old school moment with two rivals hating each other and going at it at center ice. IMO the whole thing was tarnished by Tortorella's temper tantrum on the bench and hs comments the next day. He could have come out of this like the hero by saying something like, hey they wanted to come at us like that and we did what we had to do to respond but instead just cried about it.

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

This is more of a Devils - Rangers thing than anything about Cam personally. He is wearing the wrong jersey so fXck him.

If you're admitting you can post objectively about it then why post at all?

[demodogpack]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

Where was that line in bold when we had a thread in You See Them Brawl? for a game with three fights off the opening faceoff and all a couple Devil fans and one Flyer fan with his Devil pom poms wanted to talk about was Torts reaction on the bench. Why didn't you speak up then? A great incident and all a few wanted to talk about was the coach of the team with the most fights in the league. That was far worse than having some fun in this thread.

I don't recall if I posted or not. Torts going nuts I thought at the time was Hypocritical. I heard that DeBoer said something to Torts first about having Bickel take the faceoff. Either way I don't care, Fonzy is Fonzy and will always yap and put his foot in his mouth sometimes. I find it funny, so I'm not going to complain if DeBoer said something about Bickel.That thread turned tio BS when people started saying that DeBoer somehow snuck Janssen into the line-up. Either way I detest the Fagers like a sickness, but I have to respect that they fight a lot. Therefore I have no problem with Tort's way of running things, and the Rangers wanting to fight every night. My comment about Scott came from a quote that one of the Rangers said. I think it was Rupp but I'm not sure, it was to the effect that The Devils came out and literally wanted to kill us, or something to that effect. I just hope they meet in the playoffs and The Devils throw that weak fourth line they've been playing the last few games and go back to Boulton-Carter-Janssen. Like I said I hate the Rangers but respect the fact that they are winning and fighting. It just adds to the argument that you can lead the conference in points and fights. Keep the pacifist's away from our sport.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by Janssen25

I see why Ranger fans LOVE Torts with all his whining and crying. Rag fans seem to have embraced this persona and this thread is an example of it. Are you really that blinded that you can't see a difference between these two situations?

Janssen's earned his right to call people out, especially a guy like Dubinsky who moved to defense so a proven fighter can fight his battle with Ryan fuking Carter of all people. If he still had a busted nose then he could have just not fought.

Not to mention that what Janssen said wasn't false by any means. All he said was that Dubinsky could have taken that fight, implying that it wasn't a mismatch, which it wasn't. He even went on to say " maybe he was injured" as a reason why he didn't take the fight although I think that was a subtle shot he took at Dubinsky knowing he was injured with a busted nose from his last fight with Carter.

Comparing that to Dubinsky saying, "Clarkson turns down tougher guys" is ridiculous and totally false btw. Who has Dubinsky fought that earns him the right to make an accusation like that especially about someone like Clarkson who clearly has fought tough guys and has a fight card filled with tough players?

Again I give Dubinsky credit for dropping the gloves throughout his career. However, he needs to just shut up.

The Rangers did everything right on the ice. I don't even have a problem with moving Bickel to Center. The Devils wanted to make a statement and the Rangers responded. It was a great old school moment with two rivals hating each other and going at it at center ice. IMO the whole thing was tarnished by Tortorella's temper tantrum on the bench and hs comments the next day. He could have come out of this like the hero by saying something like, hey they wanted to come at us like that and we did what we had to do to respond but instead just cried about it.




If you're admitting you can post objectively about it then why post at all?

What about Carter fighting Clarkson's battle? Why didn't Cam have a problem with that?

Again, I don't subscribe to the concept of fighting ability deciding what you can and can't say in the papers. Cam opened his mouth and shouldn't have.
I think he caught himself and that's why he threw out the "maybe he is injured line".

If Rupp came back and said that "Cam hasn't won a fight this year and he should keep his mouth shut" I am sure you would be fine with it because it is true and Rupp fights right? That is your logic with Cam opening his mouth.

[tim13]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

If Rupp came back and said that "Cam hasn't won a fight this year and he should keep his mouth shut..."

...Cam would say "shut up d*ck face, you've got a half a foot and 30 pounds on me and you quit every time we fight."

[nyrgoal]

Originally Posted by tim13

...Cam would say "shut up d*ck face, you've got a half a foot and 30 pounds on me and you quit every time we fight."

Still doesn't change the fact that he hasn't beaten Rupp. Cam has had more than enough time in there fights to walk away with a win, but hasn't.

Oh and since size is everything to you, what happen when Cam and Prust fought last week? Both guys are close in size, yet Cam had all the time in the world but still couldn't skate away with the win!

Face it as much as I admire him for having bigger balls that all of the Devs fans put together he isn't a great fighter.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by tim13

...Cam would say "shut up d*ck face, you've got a half a foot and 30 pounds on me and you quit every time we fight."

I didn't ask what Cam would say but that is a great job of ignoring the point of my post and trying to spotpick an easy answer. Anything to wave those Devil pom poms and kiss the asses of their fanbase though right?

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

What about Carter fighting Clarkson's battle? Why didn't Cam have a problem with that?

Again, I don't subscribe to the concept of fighting ability deciding what you can and can't say in the papers. Cam opened his mouth and shouldn't have.
I think he caught himself and that's why he threw out the "maybe he is injured line".

If Rupp came back and said that "Cam hasn't won a fight this year and he should keep his mouth shut" I am sure you would be fine with it because it is true and Rupp fights right? That is your logic with Cam opening his mouth.

Originally Posted by tim13

...Cam would say "shut up d*ck face, you've got a half a foot and 30 pounds on me and you quit every time we fight."

Just looking back at the part of my post that was quoted out of context makes me have to post again to make sure it is clear what BS this Devil pom pom waving clown tried to do. The part in bold is what was quoted and just look at what was said after that. I am asking a serious question to J25 hoping that he could at least accept my point of view and someone in need of a coattail to ride chimes in with this nonsense. Sophomoric is about the nicest word I could use to describe this.

[Janssen25]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

What about Carter fighting Clarkson's battle? Why didn't Cam have a problem with that?

Again, I don't subscribe to the concept of fighting ability deciding what you can and can't say in the papers. Cam opened his mouth and shouldn't have.
I think he caught himself and that's why he threw out the "maybe he is injured line".

If Rupp came back and said that "Cam hasn't won a fight this year and he should keep his mouth shut" I am sure you would be fine with it because it is true and Rupp fights right? That is your logic with Cam opening his mouth.

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Two totally different situations. Clarkson didn't line up next to Dubinsky then have Carter take his spot to fight Dubinsky. Carter said that he didn't think Clarkson wanted to get involved in a game like he did last time where he had 19 penalty minutes and couldn't contribute offensively. In the heat of the game, Carter took it upon himself to take Dubinsky to task for his comments and antics. Its not like Carter was searching for him trying to instigate a fight. Dubinsky threw a hit, Carter gave him a slash, Dubinsky turned to him and the went at it. Clarkson doesn't need to prove himself to Dubinsky just because he made a false comment about him. By that logic, I guess Dubinsky would have to fight Janssen next game. Not gonna happen.

I also think there's a difference between Cam thinking that Dubinsky could have fought Carter in that situation and Dubinsky saying Clarkson turns down tougher guys implying he's a spot picker. Two slightly different opinions to say the least.

Maybe I have a different point of view than you as far as who has the right and who doesn't have the right to make comments about other fighters in the papers. I'd have the same problem if a guy like Carter (comparable to Dubinsky) called out say Prust or Rupp for being spot pickers. Both Rupp and Prust are proven fighters and Carter hasn't earned the right to call out guys like that who've earned their stripes fighting in the league. Maybe it's an old school mentality I have but that's just the way I see it.

Most people seem to agree because the only people defending Dubinsky for his comments are Rags fans and nobody seems to have a problem with any of the comments Janssen made. I think if you step away from this and take away who was wearing what jersey, you'd understand what I'm saying.

At the end of the day, the only issues I had with everything that went down were Dubinsky and Tortorella's comments in the papers and I also wish Clarkson would have just went with Rupp at some point to silence all this "ducking" nonsense.