Sutton suspended indefinitely by League

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

You guys are idiots. They are not trying to take hitting out of the NHL or fighting for that matter. The tin-foil-hat-wearing-brigade around here is so convinced that the NHL has this secret agenda to get rid of the physicality in the NHL.

Have you ever heard of long-term health repercussions? I don't understand why I have to explain this point on a semi-regular basis around here. Yeah, we all love physical, tough hockey...I don't think there's a person in the world that likes hockey who doesn't like the toughness about it. There's a difference though between liking the legal stuff and the cheap stuff.

These hits to the head have to go. Whether or not the intent was there is irrelevant. If you hit a guy in the head, you're fined and/or suspended. That doesn't mean you're going to take hitting out of the game, and the "new nhl" sucks and hates physicality, blah blah blah. That means they care about the long-term safety of their players. They want their players to not have headaches years later like Keith Primeau. To be able to live comfortably without memory issues and other side affects. You can still have tough, physical hockey without the headshots. Shanahan has been a little shaky, but I'm behind what he's trying to do.

No there isn't. Not when talking about the, as you said, "long-term health repercussions" of these players.

Head trauma is head trauma no matter how you slice it. Don't ever comment about enjoying a fight again.

[RayzorEdge]

Originally Posted by FightingIsGood

Did I say he shouldn't throw any hits? No. I'm saying that he should be careful not to throw any questionable hits given that he'd already been suspended by the league. And while I agree that it's not a suspension-worthy hit, it was definitely a questionable hit that he was penalized for, which BTW you agreed with. Therefore, and again, he is an idiot for giving the league another reason to suspend him, and he deserves what he gets.

So he should be suspended for a play that isn't suspension worthy because "he is an idiot." I'm not sure how you can get more retarded than that. Focus on the play, not the player.

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Andy Sutton could play on my team anytime. He's as throw back an NHLer as we have left.

Another bohemeth of a defenseman used to run around and throw questionable hits that caused injuries all the time. His name was Derian Hatcher. He was called things like dirty and cheap. He was also called things like a warrior, imposing, intimidating, and aggressive. All factors that help you win hockey games.

Seems many of you have forgotten that element of the game.

[flex_buff_chest]

I can see why they would look at Sutton, he's a repeat offender. This is just silly though. An indefinate suspension? Lame.

I'm officially on the Humpzilla bandwagon.

The NHL sucks.

[FightingIsGood]

Originally Posted by RayzorEdge

So he should be suspended for a play that isn't suspension worthy because "he is an idiot." I'm not sure how you can get more retarded than that. Focus on the play, not the player.

You're still not understanding what I'm saying. I'll try one more time, and keep it short and simple. He's an idiot for putting himself in this situation, and now he's going to pay the price for his idiocy. And I don't have a problem with it. After being suspended once, I would do my damndest to make sure I don't put myself in a similar situation while continuing to play tough and physical so that I don't end up being made an example of by the league again since they now have every questionable hit under the microscope.

[Mike Tython]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

No there isn't. Not when talking about the, as you said, "long-term health repercussions" of these players.

Head trauma is head trauma no matter how you slice it. Don't ever comment about enjoying a fight again.

Have I told you how much I enjoy fighting recently? Because I really enjoy it.

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

Have I told you how much I enjoy fighting recently? Because I really enjoy it.

I don't care about your new found change in attitude, or when you saw the light glaring off Brendan Shanahan's taint as you tongued his assh0le. You're worried about player's "long-term health repercussions."

You're worried about the "long-term health repercussions" of players from the past, present, and future now. You're opinion suggests that every blow to the head is bad.

I'm suggesting that you shouldn't talk positively from here on in about any fight that you have ever seen and liked because I'm pretty sure someone was punched in the head.

And blows to the head are bad for the "long-term health repercussions" of players. Right?

[Mr. America]

Because guys taking their actions into their own hands by fighting is completely the same as guys getting cheap shotted? That makes sense.

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by Mr. America

Because guys taking their actions into their own hands by fighting is completely the same as guys getting cheap shotted? That makes sense.

Justifying one over the other when the end result is bad for a person's health makes sense too.

Hypocrite.

[Overkill]

Originally Posted by flex_buff_chest

The NHL sucks.

You just figured this out now? It has sucked for many years

[RayzorEdge]

Originally Posted by FightingIsGood

You're still not understanding what I'm saying. I'll try one more time, and keep it short and simple. He's an idiot for putting himself in this situation, and now he's going to pay the price for his idiocy. And I don't have a problem with it. After being suspended once, I would do my damndest to make sure I don't put myself in a similar situation while continuing to play tough and physical so that I don't end up being made an example of by the league again since they now have every questionable hit under the microscope.

What you're saying is hypocrisy at its worst. If it isn't a suspension worthy hit he shouldn't be suspended, period. We're close to the point in this league where being careful equals no hitting at all, and the media ******* and fans like you who have no problem with him getting suspended for a non-suspendable hit are only making things worse.

[Mike Tython]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

And blows to the head are bad for the "long-term health repercussions" of players. Right?

A guy flying through the neutral zone getting elbowed in the head is different than two guys punching each other and possibly not even connecting much. Fights like Asham/Beagle are the exception, not the rule. Most guys after a fight are none worse for wear. Guys that take Randy Savage flying elbows to the dome are.

[RedWolf]

Originally Posted by JeanLaRose

Andy Sutton vs. 'Expert' Reporter - ECQF 2010 (HD) - YouTube

reminds me of

Allen Iverson talks about PRACTICE. - YouTube

[FightingIsGood]

Originally Posted by RayzorEdge

What you're saying is hypocrisy at its worst. If it isn't a suspension worthy hit he shouldn't be suspended, period. We're close to the point in this league where being careful equals no hitting at all, and the media ******* and fans like you who have no problem with him getting suspended for a non-suspendable hit are only making things worse.

I don't WANT guys to be suspended for hits like this! I don't know how more clear I need to be. What I'm saying is that he knows Shanahan is just waiting to bust anyone for hitting up high, especially someone like him who has been suspended before. So common sense would tell you not to hit a guy up high if you want to keep your game checks. He didn't, so now he gets the book thrown at him. Too bad for him. Excuse me if I don't have much sympathy for someone who does something stupid knowing he is already being watched. It's why I despise Matt Cooke despite his vying for the Lady Byng Trophy this season. Once an idiot, always an idiot.

Nevermind. You still aren't going to get my point, so I give up. You can call me whatever you want. I don't care.

[BROKEN*ORBITAL]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

A guy flying through the neutral zone getting elbowed in the head is different than two guys punching each other and possibly not even connecting much. Fights like Asham/Beagle are the exception, not the rule. Most guys after a fight are none worse for wear. Guys that take Randy Savage flying elbows to the dome are.

Oh, I see. I didn't realize you had the ability know what's going on inside a player's head after he's been in a fight. With your gift, you oughta be a doctor.