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Old 03-11-2007, 03:01 PM
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Pretty sure McSorely was 23 games
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:09 PM
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Bertuzz got 20 games and a 17 month international ban (likly was it not for the lock out he would have got around 50-100 games) I think 25 games is about right I think in most cases the league as got think how dangerous the play was. A few Cm up or down Hollweg would have be long term hurt and bad
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:21 PM
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I think the suspension should have just been for the season and playoffs, I'm not sure about the possible carry-over to next season. As some people have said though, if that stick hit Hollweg any higher it could have spelled disaster for him. I think a pretty hefty suspension was necessary here, and I just hope this trend doesn't keep up, because it's giving the nhl a pretty ****ty rep with non-hockey people..
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:36 PM
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About what I expected. There is absolutely no place for that in the game. Period.
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:47 PM
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The length of the suspension is fair. If he had hit Hollweg in the windpipe or the temple he could have killed him.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Nassau County Attorney brings assault and battery charges against Simon. You hit somebody on the street like that and you'll go to jail for a year.

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Old 03-11-2007, 03:49 PM
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I think,most of us expected suspension for too many games...nothing suprising... 25 games are long time,but must agree to Colin Campbell,that this manner has not a place in a hockey!
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:05 PM
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Pretty much what we all expected here.
Sad News IMO.. I feel Hollweg should be booted as well for being a dirty embellishing wan who deserved the chop and more.
**** you you ignorant ****ing moron. You defend Exelby, but he plays the same ****ing way. Exelby blindsides people, Exelby gets his elbow up, Exelby hits the **** out of people.

You're a complete ****ing hypocrite for continuing to bash Hollweg. That comment you just made proved to me how much of a ****ing idiot you are. You really think Hollweg faked that?? How ****ING stupid are you?? He got hit in the face with a stick that was swung like a bat by a 6'4, 235 LB man. Yeah ok asshole...he faked it.

All you Hollweg haters can go **** yourselves. You guys want to bash the guy go ahead. But to those who say they wish he got injured, go to hell. Who with any sort of life says something like that? Does Ryan Hollweg have so much of an impact on your pathetic lives that you spend time hoping he gets injured? You guys are total ****ing losers.

And you know what the funny part is....he didn't event miss a shift and is still going around running people. How do you like them apples you dumb ****s???
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:25 PM
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Simon got what he deserves, it should have been longer
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:44 PM
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Considering Alexander Perezhogin was suspended for the rest of the playoffs and an entire season for the same type of slash, I would say the suspension is appropriate and not surprising. I was looking through the old thread and people were calling for a lifetime ban of Perezhogin, but I wont be surprised to hear everyone defending Simon and saying the suspension was to much for a very similar incident.
That occured in the AHL and was a far worse incident. After being crosschecked and highsticked in the helmet, Perezhogin knocked Garrett Stafford unconscious. Stafford had convulsions, lost several teeth, 20 stitches, and a concussion.

After being suspended for the rest of the playoffs, and the entire AHL season of 2004-05, Perezhogin simply went back to Russia to play out his suspension.

Here's another incident from "back in the day" that is one of the worse blackmarks in the sport. Note the lax punishments. (from: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/columns/top...lowlights.html)

Wayne Maki fractures Ted Green's skull
Imagine the worst stick-swinging incident of the modern NHL era, complete with heavy wooden sticks and helmets nowhere in sight. Voila, you have St. Louis' Wayne Maki opposite "Terrible" Ted Green of the Boston Bruins, circa 1969-70 in Ottawa.

In the midst of a pre-season game, Maki knocked Green down from behind. The latter retaliated by slashing Maki, who hit the ice. Maki speared Green, who again sent Maki flying. The pair soon exchanged vicious slashes until Maki clubbed Green over the head, fracturing his skull.

Green needed three major operations to save his life and had a steel plate inserted in his head. Maki was suspended for 30 days and Green for 12 games when he returned to action one year later. Assault charges were filed against both players, who were later acquitted.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:19 PM
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Total bull**** - thank you Barry Melrose you self important idiot.
Let's see, players are losing their careers to concussions due to illegal hits, and knee injuries due to illegal knee on knee hits, yet Simon gets the worst punishment of all time?
I also think Simon was trying to cross check Hollweg but Hollweg moved out of the way making Simon have to reach out to hit him. No excuse for what he did, but definitely nowhere near the worst infraction of all time.
Whats funny and sad is somewhere down the road this season or in the playoffs, some moron like Chris Neil or Janssen will pop somebody like Lecavalier's knee out and get 5 games.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:20 PM
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That occured in the AHL and was a far worse incident. After being crosschecked and highsticked in the helmet, Perezhogin knocked Garrett Stafford unconscious. Stafford had convulsions, lost several teeth, 20 stitches, and a concussion.

After being suspended for the rest of the playoffs, and the entire AHL season of 2004-05, Perezhogin simply went back to Russia to play out his suspension.
Yeah, I'm very familiar with the incident since I was a season ticket holder for Cleveland when that happened. Regardless of the injuries suffered and the fact that Stafford was sitting when it happened, it was pretty much the same thing. Perezhogin retaliated with a slash to the face and he got the longest suspension in AHL history for it, even though he was able to go play in Russia. What would Simon's suspension be if Hollweg was seriously injured? Probably even more severe. I just find it funny how some people on here want a guy like Perezhogin banned from hockey forever and then think Simon should only get a few games, since he is a tough guy.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:55 PM
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The first time I saw it, I thought that Simon just tried to cross check him to get to the "drop the gloves" point but it looks a little more like a swing. No way it was a "baseball bat" swing tho. I do agree that Chris should have just dropped the mits and beat the crap outta him. In "this NHL" the suspensions will be severe.
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:04 PM
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Personally I didn't think it looked worse than the Bert or McSorely incidents but he definetly deserved what he got. I think it going into next season was a tad bit harsh tho.

As far as the above comment about wanting to cross-check Hollweg but missed - that's stretching it abit, Simon never denied this move. He meant to hit the face, or worse.
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:08 PM
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Yeah, I'm very familiar with the incident since I was a season ticket holder for Cleveland when that happened. Regardless of the injuries suffered and the fact that Stafford was sitting when it happened, it was pretty much the same thing. Perezhogin retaliated with a slash to the face and he got the longest suspension in AHL history for it, even though he was able to go play in Russia. What would Simon's suspension be if Hollweg was seriously injured? Probably even more severe. I just find it funny how some people on here want a guy like Perezhogin banned from hockey forever and then think Simon should only get a few games, since he is a tough guy.
Pretty much the same thing? Or the same thing?
I think there was a big difference in the way Perezhogin swung his stick and the way Simon did, not to mention the outcome. But I agree with you, there is a lot of hypocrisy surrounding this issue, but I don't find that funny.
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:09 PM
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Well, pretty harsh, but expected. If the league wanted to send a message to players and fans alike, then mission accomplished - goes to show how far the league is willing to go to show how this kind of stuff will not be tolerated.

I do feel kinda sorry for Simon. He was having a pretty good year too after totally stinking it up in Calgary last year. And to most fans, this is how he'll always be remembered. If he comes back, I wonder if he'll be booed everywhere the way Bertuzzi is.

Just imagine what would the punishment would have been if he HAD seriously injured Hollweg, or knocked him out? A lifetime ban, perhaps? Maybe Simon should consider himself lucky afterall - he could have gotten it worse if his stick had struck a little higher/lower.
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