Rangers Acquire Rick Nash from Columbus

[canuck2]

Nash should help the Rangers score a few more goals. He's unproven in the spotlight but did play well for Canada in the Olympics.

[Mike Kole]

Originally Posted by Flyer_Frank

The haves really were able to rip off that have nots in those days. It's a good thing for the league that all that has changed.

Yeah, I remember the 1976-77 Barons, when their 3rd line center was, um, Rick Shinske. Wow, those were the days.

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by Ciccarelli

Lopsided trade or not, the point is Nash didn't want to stay in Columbus anymore and it doesn't help you much if you keep your superstar around that isn't happy and won't play out his full potential.

What I wonder is if there was no better offer for Nash on table then this one, if this was the best offer Howson got over the last couple of months then the trade is ok. I think Anisimov, Dubinsky and Erixon can turn out to be very helpfull for Columbus and in the near future they can bring more to the Blue Jackets then a unhappy Nash that scores about 35 goals.

The Rangers on the other side have had teams with lots of superstars already in the past and failed (remember 2001-2002 when they had Lindros, Messier, Bure, Fleury, Nedved, Rucinsky as offensive players and still failed to do anything).

I hope Nash will finally play like he can...it was about time that he got traded, he can be a true superstar in this league and an amazing player to watch. I'm excited to watch some Rangers games this season.

As we pointed out, the days of 2001/02 are long gone! The Rangers have a core group, an identity, and play GREAT TEAM DEFENSE and hit and take the body!
Any Ranger fan knows the days of 1997-2003 are long gone!
If the Rangers can develop a PP and score 3 goals a game on average, they will win a Stanley Cup!

Originally Posted by Flyer_Frank

The haves really were able to rip off that have nots in those days. It's a good thing for the league that all that has changed.

If you like Boyle, more power to you. First time I saw him was when he was still in Manchester. I've just never really been all that impressed with him but the big guys sometimes do develop slower.

Three years ago he was a horrible skater with the Rangers but the last 2 summers has really worked on his skating! I'm not sure if he is back with the skating coach but hopefully he is!
Last year he spent around 60 games playing in bad luck hitting posts and getting close but not scoring but over the last 20 games was back to the year before when he scored 21 goals and 35 points! In his last 19 games he scored 6 goals and 11 points and is an excellent penalty killer. The other thing is because he is big but is a crappy fighter, many who don't know him assume that he plays like a big pus*y!
Nothing could be further from the truth! Like I wrote he's been among the leaders in hits the past two seasons with 476 and with his 245 pounds hits hard!
He's made himself into a valuable asset! Remember also that his right winger was Prust and we all love Prust but he isn't a scorer and that hurt Boyle's production!
If he can become a little more consistent is capable of scoring 20 goals and 40 points but like I wrote, I'd be happy with his 16 goals and 31 point average the past two seasons!

Originally Posted by V12_Bi-Turbo

I was of course talking about Rick Nash category players. Not about people like Sauer or Hagelin. Rangers develop **** and its known.

I am very tired of their Naslund, Jagr, Bure, Drury, Fleury kind of trades

Can someone say Stevie Wonder for this guy and Naslund, Fleury and Drury were not trades and what was wrong with stealing Jagr from the Caps?
Sather got Washington to pay most of his salary and only had to trade Anson Carter for Jagr who scored 54 goals and 123 points one year, and 30 goals and 96 points another year with a bad shoulder!
Overall as a Ranger, Jagr played 277 games as a Ranger and scored 124 goals and scored 319 points and was a plus 67!
That is 37 goals and 94 points in 82 games in a tight checking NHL!
In the playoffs he played in 23 games and scored 10 goals and 27 points! That is over 96 points in 82 games and in 2006 he only played in 3 playoff games with a bad shoulder and had one assist! So in his other 20 games in the playoffs as a Ranger, he scored 10 goals and 26 points and was a plus 9! What is wrong with that?
Bure scored 31 goals in 51 games as a Ranger and it was his knee that caused him to retire! He was still a sniper when healthy!
What is the color of the sky in your world?

Originally Posted by acdcrocksno1

What that doesn't take into consideration however is that they lost 3 players and gained one that's 2 more roster spots to fill they will both make more than 25,000

No they don't have to fill anything as we have shown. They have enough players now but would like to add a Doan but don't have to or now possibly an Arnott who Sather drafted years ago!

Left wing:
Nash
Kreider
Hagelin
Rupp
Pyatt-?

Center:
Richards
Stepan
Boyle
Halpern
Haley

Right Wing:
Gaborik
Callahan
Pyatt-?
Asham
Thomas

Defense:
Girardi
Staal
McDonagh
DelZotto
Sauer
Stralman
Bickel

Goal:

Hank
Biron

They have enough players but with plenty of Cap Space can add a Doan or Arnott if they desire!

[mikebflorida]

Great deal for the Rangers. Nash having some centers who can actually pass the puck to him will be very telling I think.

He was over rated in Columbus but won't be in New York.

In today's lame NHL, getting your paws on a 40 goal scorer is a big deal.

As others have said, the 70's and 80's were so incredible for talent but that all changed when Buttman started expanding like Oprah Winfrey after a food binge and diluted the talent pool so badly.

This could be the key piece that puts NY over the top but it's a long season and Nash has only played 82 games once. He hasn't missed a lot of games but seems to get hurt every once in a while. If he stays healthy, this is a steal for the Rangers.

Dubinsky and Anisimov will be the "stars" in Columbus. How pathetic is that?

The Rangers didn't need Shea Weber big jack, they had one of the best defenses in the league, they needed goal scoring, big time, and got just what the doctor ordered.

[FrontLineAdmirals]

Originally Posted by V12_Bi-Turbo

Am I the only one on here who would rather have Dubi and Artem on my team than Rick Nash? Maybe because I dont watch Columbus games and have seen Nash playing just for team Canada and he sucked MAJOR MAJOR balls. (except 2010 olympics)

So its typical Rangers signing and I expect him getting Chris Druryied

I don't know if I would rather have those two players; however, I don't think this is nearly as bad as everyone says. I do think Howson is a moron, but for many more reasons that this trade.

[bigjack]

Originally Posted by mikebflorida

Great deal for the Rangers. Nash having some centers who can actually pass the puck to him will be very telling I think.

He was over rated in Columbus but won't be in New York.

In today's lame NHL, getting your paws on a 40 goal scorer is a big deal.

As others have said, the 70's and 80's were so incredible for talent but that all changed when Buttman started expanding like Oprah Winfrey after a food binge and diluted the talent pool so badly.

This could be the key piece that puts NY over the top but it's a long season and Nash has only played 82 games once. He hasn't missed a lot of games but seems to get hurt every once in a while. If he stays healthy, this is a steal for the Rangers.

Dubinsky and Anisimov will be the "stars" in Columbus. How pathetic is that?

The Rangers didn't need Shea Weber big jack, they had one of the best defenses in the league, they needed goal scoring, big time, and got just what the doctor ordered.

I would of taken Weber to help the PP but I agree that goal scoring is needed badly!
You are speaking to the choir here with you expansion comments! I've been writing that for almost 8 years now! I've always said eliminate 10 teams and what a great league we would have! We would see some excellent 3rd lines like in the old days!

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by mikebflorida

Great deal for the Rangers. Nash having some centers who can actually pass the puck to him will be very telling I think.

He was over rated in Columbus but won't be in New York.

In today's lame NHL, getting your paws on a 40 goal scorer is a big deal.

As others have said, the 70's and 80's were so incredible for talent but that all changed when Buttman started expanding like Oprah Winfrey after a food binge and diluted the talent pool so badly.

This could be the key piece that puts NY over the top but it's a long season and Nash has only played 82 games once. He hasn't missed a lot of games but seems to get hurt every once in a while. If he stays healthy, this is a steal for the Rangers.

Dubinsky and Anisimov will be the "stars" in Columbus. How pathetic is that?

The Rangers didn't need Shea Weber big jack, they had one of the best defenses in the league, they needed goal scoring, big time, and got just what the doctor ordered.

I think Henry makes the Rangers D a lot better then it actually is.

I do agree on paper Nash gives the Rangers an offensive player who gives them much needed scoring. But it rarely works just adding highlly paid offensive players to your club.
It will be interesting.

[V12_Bi-Turbo]

Originally Posted by bigjack

Can someone say Stevie Wonder for this guy and Naslund, Fleury and Drury were not trades and what was wrong with stealing Jagr from the Caps?
Sather got Washington to pay most of his salary and only had to trade Anson Carter for Jagr who scored 54 goals and 123 points one year, and 30 goals and 96 points another year with a bad shoulder!
Overall as a Ranger, Jagr played 277 games as a Ranger and scored 124 goals and scored 319 points and was a plus 67!
That is 37 goals and 94 points in 82 games in a tight checking NHL!
In the playoffs he played in 23 games and scored 10 goals and 27 points! That is over 96 points in 82 games and in 2006 he only played in 3 playoff games with a bad shoulder and had one assist! So in his other 20 games in the playoffs as a Ranger, he scored 10 goals and 26 points and was a plus 9! What is wrong with that?
Bure scored 31 goals in 51 games as a Ranger and it was his knee that caused him to retire! He was still a sniper when healthy!
What is the color of the sky in your world?

Jesus christ I dont care if those were trades or free agent signings or whatever I am telling you that the thing is the Rags technique to capture the cup is to sign done superstars, put them to lineup next to each other and to expect like little kids it will work. This is not the way how you complete a cup winning team and thats why the Rags have won total **** in almost last two decades

Artem and Dubinsky were a huge part of the Rags TEAM which was about to be succesful and they broke the ****ing chemistry again with typical Rangers trade. How long you people watch hockey? Ever heard about team thing should be 1st? Whooaaa !!! Nash goes to New York!! Yeah what a great trade!!!

[DARCY T]

i dont see it is as stupid trade for blue jackets as many of u claim it to be.nash is way too overated and jackets never won anything with him anyway.2 talented forwards and 1st round draft pick is not that bad.

[chilly666]

how the hell was nash and the jackets supposed to win with that group of players surrounding him? how was nash really supposed to show how much of a star he is with that cast of characters?

some people are dense as hell...if one truly unknown prospect, one at best 3rd liner and one at best very overpaid 3rd liner for a star player isn't stupid then idk don't really know what is and would really like to know.

[V12_Bi-Turbo]

Originally Posted by chilly666

how the hell was nash and the jackets supposed to win with that group of players surrounding him? how was nash really supposed to show how much of a star he is with that cast of characters?

some people are dense as hell...if one truly unknown prospect, one at best 3rd liner and one at best very overpaid 3rd liner for a star player isn't stupid then idk don't really know what is and would really like to know.

its funny how are you trying to depict them as bad as possible :-)
They are good players with PLAYOFF experiences

[chilly666]

im not but dubinsky is an overpaid hack that has done nothing relevant recently and anisimov is a 3rd liner at best. saying that they have playoff experience means nothing in this case either. so does paul bissonette, but does that mean he's good? come on now. you've been proven to be nothing but non-informed about this whole thing so yeah.....

[Janssen25]

Originally Posted by chilly666

how the hell was nash and the jackets supposed to win with that group of players surrounding him? how was nash really supposed to show how much of a star he is with that cast of characters?

Oh I see. So when its Nash, the supporting cast is the only reason he didn't win or show how much of a star he is. But when its Kovalchuk, it has nothing to do with his toilet bowl supporting cast in Atlanta and Kovalchuk is flat out just a lazy, selfish player who will never have any success (Cup Final in year 2 of his contract).

Could you be any more of a hypocrite?

[HordiBrusk29]

Originally Posted by DARCY T

nash is way too overated

No he isn't. And now he'll have an opportunity to prove that claim false.

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by Janssen25

Oh I see. So when its Nash, the supporting cast is the only reason he didn't win or show how much of a star he is. But when its Kovalchuk, it has nothing to do with his toilet bowl supporting cast in Atlanta and Kovalchuk is flat out just a lazy, selfish player who will never have any success (Cup Final in year 2 of his contract).

Could you be any more of a hypocrite?

nash plays every situation unlike kovalchuk. kovalchuk had hossa and heatley while in atlanta along with slava kozlov and a lot better chance to win over nash.

kovalchuk is still a lazy, selfish bastard. he isn't the only one that helped the devils to the finals so don't go giving him all the credit like you are homer boy.