Pierre-Luc Letourneau-LeBlond Suspended One Game

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Originally Posted by westgennylax3

no problem with this...whoever made reference to cammaliere, he shulda gotten a few, and this should be where it is

Suspend a guy for nothing. Yeah, that's how the league be running itself. Someone's been watching the Wings a little too long.

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Originally Posted by BigBadWolf1171

i dont see the problem here. Pl3 ask Johannson if he wanted to fight and got a "no" as a response during the faceoff, then chases him down the ice,catches him, drops the gloves and prepares to take his frustration out on the rookie,all but failing due to Johannson falling(looked like he dropped to the ice and rolled on his back like a scolded dog) to the ice, all with less then 5 mins left in the game.Did the league make the correct call? Yeah, the fact no actual punches were thrown doesnt make it not a fight,PL3 was in the act/process of fighting(mauling) Johannson.In any other case when a player drops his gloves and takes a player down ,its 9 outta 10 times called a fight in today's hockey, regardless of punchcount,so this shouldnt be a shocker. Im sure PL3 knew the deal before the puck even dropped,the only problem i see here is IF Maclean didnt give him the ok to do what he did,but then why even put him on the ice,we'll know if PL3 is benched when he gets back after the 1 gamer.

Show me 8 more videos from "today's hockey" to support your case. Gloves come off, no punches, guys fall down, majors handed out.

[stevecanuck16]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

Wanting to fight someone is a lot different than actually fighting them. This was not a fight. Had LeBlond raised his stick over his head like he was going to tomohawk Carlson's head off, and then just lightly slashed him on the leg, should he get a 5 minute major for slashing?

Same thing here. Yeah PLLLLLLLLLLLL jumped Carlson, but nothing happened afterwards to warrant a fighting major. Without a fight, there can be no instigator. If you believe otherwise than you might as well go ahead and ask for a second helping of the league's Kool-Aid, because you have bought into their nonsense.

I think you're letting your mouth run a little ahead of your mind, B*O. First of all, it was Johansson PL3 was after, not Carlson. The only reason this site lists Carlson as the opposition is because he was the first guy into the scrum and got a roughing minor.

Secondly, let's look at this realistically. Stop comparing it to Cammalleri, they're not comparable incidents. Apples and oranges.

PL3 chases the young rookie down the ice from the drop of the puck. He doesn't even look at the play. Now, I didn't watch the whole game, but nothing I've read has indicated that Johansson did anything to warrant this, he was just a random player on the other team. PL3, immediately after the whistle, dropped both gloves and grabbed Johansson with his left, before attempting a right and then grabbing with that right as Johansson toppled to the ice.

Now, if the incident ends here, you could certainly see an instigator called, with PL3 picking up the 2, 5 and 10. There's plenty of precedent for it, as single fighting majors are called all the time, and there's no doubt in anyone's mind that PL3 intended to pummel the kid. Still, this would be a borderline call, and could easily be called a roughing.

However, the incident didn't end there. PL3, still with the gloves off, got up and grabbed hold of Carlson around the pants, and continued to try to get at him/punch him underneath the linesman (PL3 was bent over most of this time as the linesman tried to control him.) He then grabs the linesman around the waste and wrestles with him, before getting into it with the Washington bench. He is then finally calmed down by the linesman.

Again, this is all unwarranted. Johansson did absolutely nothing except play for a team that decidedly won a hockey game. If PL3 wants to send a message, either go after a star or someone who will fight back. Going after a no-name, Euro, rookie for no reason shows nothing but cowardice. Just a stupid play, overall.

When the NHL put this whole rule in place, it was to stop stuff like this. After everything that PL3 did, the Devils should consider themselves lucky he only got 1 game.

[BigBadWolf1171]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

Show me 8 more videos from "today's hockey" to support your case. Gloves come off, no punches, guys fall down, majors handed out.

that'd take some digging, but, one would be Carkner vs Fedoruk, april 10 2010.
Players dropping the gloves and grabbing another player with fighting intentions that dont end up with either player throwing a punch, doesnt happen that often.

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Originally Posted by stevecanuck16

I think you're letting your mouth run a little ahead of your mind, B*O. First of all, it was Johansson PL3 was after, not Carlson. The only reason this site lists Carlson as the opposition is because he was the first guy into the scrum and got a roughing minor.

Secondly, let's look at this realistically. Stop comparing it to Cammalleri, they're not comparable incidents. Apples and oranges.

PL3 chases the young rookie down the ice from the drop of the puck. He doesn't even look at the play. Now, I didn't watch the whole game, but nothing I've read has indicated that Johansson did anything to warrant this, he was just a random player on the other team. PL3, immediately after the whistle, dropped both gloves and grabbed Johansson with his left, before attempting a right and then grabbing with that right as Johansson toppled to the ice.

Now, if the incident ends here, you could certainly see an instigator called, with PL3 picking up the 2, 5 and 10. There's plenty of precedent for it, as single fighting majors are called all the time, and there's no doubt in anyone's mind that PL3 intended to pummel the kid. Still, this would be a borderline call, and could easily be called a roughing.

However, the incident didn't end there. PL3, still with the gloves off, got up and grabbed hold of Carlson around the pants, and continued to try to get at him/punch him underneath the linesman (PL3 was bent over most of this time as the linesman tried to control him.) He then grabs the linesman around the waste and wrestles with him, before getting into it with the Washington bench. He is then finally calmed down by the linesman.

Again, this is all unwarranted. Johansson did absolutely nothing except play for a team that decidedly won a hockey game. If PL3 wants to send a message, either go after a star or someone who will fight back. Going after a no-name, Euro, rookie for no reason shows nothing but cowardice. Just a stupid play, overall.

When the NHL put this whole rule in place, it was to stop stuff like this. After everything that PL3 did, the Devils should consider themselves lucky he only got 1 game.

That's a lot of typing for having said nothing other than admitting you're puss. Here's how the league generally handles these situations. 2 or 4 for roughing and a 10 minute misconduct. LeBlond is out of the game. Problem solved. No BS suspension necessary.

But go ahead and agree with this nonsense of suspending guys for nothing. Yup. That's hockey.

[stevecanuck16]

Originally Posted by BigBadWolf1171

that'd take some digging, but, one would be Carkner vs Fedoruk, april 10 2010.
Players dropping the gloves and grabbing another player with fighting intentions that dont end up with either player throwing a punch, doesnt happen that often.

They're pretty rare instances. Bourque on Tyler Sloan last year comes to mind. Again, it varies from ref to ref. Sometimes something like this is called a fight, sometimes it's not. Sometimes you have two guys trade punches for 30 seconds and fall, only to get 2 each for roughing. There's a lack of consistency, but in this instance it doesn't matter.

PL3 would have got suspended whether he got a fighting major or not. 10 times out of 10. His actions were pointless, cowardly, and something the league has repeatedly stated it doesn't want anymore.

[stevecanuck16]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

That's a lot of typing for having said nothing other than admitting you're puss. Here's how the league generally handles these situations. 2 or 4 for roughing and a 10 minute misconduct. LeBlond is out of the game. Problem solved.

But go ahead and agree with this nonsense of suspending guys for nothing. Yup. That's hockey.

Although PL3 didn't clean the rookie's clock, he certainly tried. Are you saying that PL3 would have got a suspension had he actually landed a punch, but he shouldn't be suspended because he didn't? Well, lucky for him he's a sh1tty fighter, then.

The fact is, he attacked a random guy with 4 minutes left in the game just because his team took a sh1tkicking. If he's not suspended, what's to stop this kind of garbage from happening every game?

I'm all for fights, but this was not a fight. A player doesn't deserve to be jumped just because he won a game. Now, as a Toronto Maple Leafs fan, I can see how your opinion might differ on this. But speaking as a fan who's team actually wins games with regularity, I really don't think rookies need to be beat up every time their team wins a game.

That's not hockey.

[acdcrocksno1]

Originally Posted by BROKEN*ORBITAL

That's a lot of typing for having said nothing other than admitting you're puss. Here's how the league generally handles these situations. 2 or 4 for roughing and a 10 minute misconduct. LeBlond is out of the game. Problem solved. No BS suspension necessary.

But go ahead and agree with this nonsense of suspending guys for nothing. Yup. That's hockey.

PLLL how is he a puss, I agree with him and so it seems do most others, he chased a euro rookie down the ice and tryed to beat the crap out of him for no reason other than his team sucked on the day. I wouldnt have had a problem with it if he went after someone who deserved it someone like Avery or Carcillo or even another fighter like Bradley but a no name euro rookie thats just low

[NJDevils17]

What I want to know is how come John Erskine wasn't on the ice? When the other team is getting their ass kicked and they put out their tough guy, you have to put out your tough guy.

Leblond wasn't out there to score goals at the end of the game; he was mad and frustrated and wanted to take out his anger on the first Capital he saw. Boudreau is lucky that none of his players were hurt.

I guarantee that if Erskine was out there, Leblond either would have done nothing or would have fought Erskine and not go after Johansson.

[I_am_Belak_2]

Shouldn't we all be happy he only got 1 game? With the way the league treats fighters, I'm surprised they didn't give him 5-10.

[NJDevils17]

Originally Posted by I_am_Belak_2

Shouldn't we all be happy he only got 1 game? With the way the league treats fighters, I'm surprised they didn't give him 5-10.

They can't give him more than one.

It explicitly says in the rule book that a player gets suspended one game for an instigator in the last 5 minutes.

That may change if a player has a prior history, but this is Leblond's first NHL suspension.

It is what it is. Devils are in cap hell and will have to play their next game down a man (maybe more if Volchenkov and/or Rolston aren't able to play). Mistakes were made by Leblond and MacLean. It's a learning experience for both and they'll move on.

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Originally Posted by stevecanuck16

They're pretty rare instances. Bourque on Tyler Sloan last year comes to mind. Again, it varies from ref to ref. Sometimes something like this is called a fight, sometimes it's not. Sometimes you have two guys trade punches for 30 seconds and fall, only to get 2 each for roughing. There's a lack of consistency, but in this instance it doesn't matter.

PL3 would have got suspended whether he got a fighting major or not. 10 times out of 10. His actions were pointless, cowardly, and something the league has repeatedly stated it doesn't want anymore.

Didn't take you long to discredit yourself in this discussion.

[PuckHogs29]

I have to mark my calender. I can't remember the last time I agreed with B*O this many times in a thread.

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Originally Posted by stevecanuck16

Although PL3 didn't clean the rookie's clock, he certainly tried. Are you saying that PL3 would have got a suspension had he actually landed a punch, but he shouldn't be suspended because he didn't? Well, lucky for him he's a sh1tty fighter, then.

The fact is, he attacked a random guy with 4 minutes left in the game just because his team took a sh1tkicking. If he's not suspended, what's to stop this kind of garbage from happening every game?

I'm all for fights, but this was not a fight. A player doesn't deserve to be jumped just because he won a game. Now, as a Toronto Maple Leafs fan, I can see how your opinion might differ on this. But speaking as a fan who's team actually wins games with regularity, I really don't think rookies need to be beat up every time their team wins a game.

That's not hockey.

Yet you agree with him getting an instigator and suspended for something you admit wasn't a fight. The league didn't say they were suspending him for his actions during the scrum, they suspended him for the instigator for a fight that didn't happen, as you just admitted.

Oh and that Leafs dig was both hilarious and original. A+ material.

[BigBadWolf1171]

Originally Posted by I_am_Belak_2

Shouldn't we all be happy he only got 1 game? With the way the league treats fighters, I'm surprised they didn't give him 5-10.

thats what im saying,PL3 knew Johannson wasnt gonna drop the gloves,yet still went at him,he obviously knew he was gonna get an instigator.
At the end of the day its a 1 game suspension,no big deal.