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Old 04-16-2012, 08:27 PM
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He never should have been given an instigator in the first place.
I hate the rule, BUT he did just start throwing punches to the back of Harts head? I guess if your going to call an instgator on some one this is the time to do it
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:34 PM
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Let me try to explain myself.

I see Adams as being the 3rd man in to an altercation between Scott Hartnell and Sidney Crosby. He certainly slugged him a few times but then they squared off and had a fair fight.

I would have given him 5 for fighting and a game misconduct rather than 2-5-10.

I feel that in these huge scrums they could basically hand out an instigator for each fight if they really wanted to. I understand Adams certainly did instigate the fight, so I guess my problem is more with the decision not to rescind the "automatic" one game suspension.

The NHL had no problems rescinding Malkin's "automatic" one game suspension when he instigated that fight with Zetterberg a few years ago in the Finals.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:34 PM
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That was Adams last game in a pens uniform...... Maybe they'll feel bad and sign him on a two way contract because he was trying to protect Crosby and he can play in WBS. That game was both Adams and ashams last.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:38 PM
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Let me try to explain myself.

I see Adams as being the 3rd man in to an altercation between Scott Hartnell and Sidney Crosby. He certainly slugged him a few times but then they squared off and had a fair fight.

I would have given him 5 for fighting and a game misconduct rather than 2-5-10.

I feel that in these huge scrums they could basically hand out an instigator for each fight if they really wanted to. I understand Adams certainly did instigate the fight, so I guess my problem is more with the decision not to rescind the "automatic" one game suspension.

The NHL had no problems rescinding Malkin's "automatic" one game suspension when he instigated that fight with Zetterberg a few years ago in the Finals.
You're forgetting the all important NHL double standard. If a star player instigates, the penalty will be rescinded. If it's a 3rd/4th liner, the penalty stays.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:41 PM
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I understand Adams certainly did instigate the fight, so I guess my problem is more with the decision not to rescind the "automatic" one game suspension.
how can you expect them to rescind something so ****ing obvious that is in the rule book, not just something shanahan is making up?

there's a gray area to an extent, but there is no way in hell, that gray area can be used in this situation.
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:46 PM
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My problem is more with the inconsistency. I'd be a fool to argue that Adams didn't instigate the fight with Hartnell, but how is it much different than Sobotka just suckering Moore at the end of the Sharks/Blues game the other night?
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:49 PM
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Adams was 3rd homo in and starts throwing punches at a defenseless player.

1 game is lenient compared to what others have done.

I hate all these suspensions actually, let the boys play!!!!
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:50 PM
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Let me try to explain myself.

I see Adams as being the 3rd man in to an altercation between Scott Hartnell and Sidney Crosby. He certainly slugged him a few times but then they squared off and had a fair fight.

I would have given him 5 for fighting and a game misconduct rather than 2-5-10.

I feel that in these huge scrums they could basically hand out an instigator for each fight if they really wanted to. I understand Adams certainly did instigate the fight, so I guess my problem is more with the decision not to rescind the "automatic" one game suspension.

The NHL had no problems rescinding Malkin's "automatic" one game suspension when he instigated that fight with Zetterberg a few years ago in the Finals.
I understand what your saying, but most of the time guys pair off, there are times were some one trys to stand in for one of there players but guys dont normally just start punching the back of a guys heads either. Adams could have grabbed ahold of harts and got him to turn around, but he didnt. Either way emotions run high, I been there, chit happens
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Old 04-16-2012, 08:53 PM
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Stupid ass rule, of course Shanny was a factor in its upbringing.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:26 PM
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Really?

Complete Joke, Mix Messages are being sent down daily,

I guess he was not laying on the ground "acting hurt" like we know Senators Captain did later on,

Or how about Schenn did after an automatic charging penalty should have been called for leaving his feet, and late hit, Asham hits him across the shoulders
but here we go again Refs, just had to call something

So now, we have act like your hurt and a get a favoriable call, and they other guys gets a major

So I guess now you can drop your gloves beat a guy down to the ice, and keep hitting him while he is down, REFS just look at it and watch , and then players start jumping in, oh yeah now we call a 3rd man in , come on what do you think is going to happen,

Poor Poor Leadership,
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:33 PM
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Again

Here we go again,

What about Hartnell? he already had his Gloves Off trying to fight Sydney

What a complete Joke , yet again, Mixed messages from the Top
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:17 PM
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Yeah its definitely automatic...sometimes...maybe...

Its an automatic suspension when they are trying to control the next game which is the case here.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:10 PM
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And so it begins
u dont think it was an instigator?
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Old 04-17-2012, 12:24 AM
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Adams is a moron. Enjoy golf season you tool. I have no idea what he was even doing at that point.

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Old 04-17-2012, 12:30 AM
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Adams took one for the team by protecting the captain. Anyway, we want Vitale back.
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