Matt Carkner Returned to Binghamton

[Smerri1029]

01/09/2009 Matt Carkner (D) Binghamton ADD Returned on loan from Ottawa (NHL)

Damn. That was quick.

[Sugden Flu]

Maybe he should've looked a little harder for a fight when the Sens were in Boston?

[Jack Schitt]

Originally Posted by Smerri1029

Damn. That was quick.

Word. That wasn't even a "half cup of coffee".

[blackngold]

Why? I thought they said he was called up to take Ruutu's spot on the roster and as far as I'm concerned Ruutu is still suspended?

[lilburtis9363]

Damn, was looking forward to Orr vs Carkner

[The Woodsman]

[Jungle Cat]

Talked to a freind of Carkner's yesterday and he said that in warm ups that he and Thornton had an agreement to go when they were on the ice together for the first time. Carkner said that he never got the chance and Niel beat him to it. Said that Ottawa never put him out with Thornton on the ice. Carkner got 4 shifts. Not much of a chance with only 4 shifts. Pretty sh*tty of Ottawa to do that to a guy. I really respect Thornton for doing what he would have done for Carkner by giving him a fight.

[Tucker_316]

Yeah it's a respectful move on Thorntons part...but it leads me to this thing that fights should really be based more on setting a tone or emotions conjured up from the intensity of a game. This agreeing to give a fight thing seems kinda like "yea alright, we may as well, eh".

[blackngold]

Originally Posted by Tucker_316

Yeah it's a respectful move on Thorntons part...but it leads me to this thing that fights should really be based more on setting a tone or emotions conjured up from the intensity of a game. This agreeing to give a fight thing seems kinda like "yea alright, we may as well, eh".

Completely different situation here because Carkner is a rook looking to make an impression on his team. Thornton did the right thing by agreeing to fight the guy. He was probably in the same situation a few years ago (as with all NHL tough guys) when he was at the very beginning of his NHL career, looking to stick in the big leagues.

[Tucker_316]

Originally Posted by blackngold

Completely different situation here because Carkner is a rook looking to make an impression on his team. Thornton did the right thing by agreeing to fight the guy. He was probably in the same situation a few years ago (as with all NHL tough guys) when he was at the very beginning of his NHL career, looking to stick in the big leagues.

Yeah I agree. I dont have any issues with this case at all.

I'm just wondering if Carkner would have even needed to ask Thornton, or just sometime during the game done something to grab Shawn's attention.

[Snipes19]

Ugh, that sucks. Now Ottawa is left with just Neil again...

They need another legit heavy like Carkner to help him out... why don't they realize that? It just makes me mad when they send him back down after one game. I got excited when they called him up, but unfortunately it was only for one game... so what was the point?

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by Wes McSnipes

Ugh, that sucks. Now Ottawa is left with just Neil again...

They need another legit heavy like Carkner to help him out... why don't they realize that? It just makes me mad when they send him back down after one game. I got excited when they called him up, but unfortunately it was only for one game... so what was the point?

ill agree with you that they need someone to help out neil, but carkner isnt it though.

[Snipes19]

Originally Posted by chilly666

ill agree with you that they need someone to help out neil, but carkner isnt it though.

Why not? He's a legit heavyweight, and was in the Top 10 in the AHL I believe, so he's a pretty good fighter. He's done well against a lot of good heavyweights. You're not the only person I know on this site that doesn't think Carkner's the answer, and I just don't get that. He's definitely good enough to serve as a team's heavyweight, IMO. So I'm just curious as to what your reasoning is. Neil and Carkner would be a pretty darn good 1-2 punch... and would be better than what most teams have.

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by Wes McSnipes

Why not? He's a legit heavyweight, and was in the Top 10 in the AHL I believe, so he's a pretty good fighter. He's done well against a lot of good heavyweights. You're not the only person I know on this site that doesn't think Carkner's the answer, and I just don't get that. He's definitely good enough to serve as a team's heavyweight, IMO. So I'm just curious as to what your reasoning is. Neil and Carkner would be a pretty darn good 1-2 punch... and would be better than what most teams have.

carkner also runs alot when challenged and then will go after someone that well he really shouldnt be fighting unless sticking up for a teammate. just my opinion.

[Purely_Purinton]

Originally Posted by chilly666

carkner also runs alot when challenged and then will go after someone that well he really shouldnt be fighting unless sticking up for a teammate. just my opinion.

Perhaps, at this stage of his AHL career, Carkner feels that for a guy of his skill level he doesn't need to be fighting "appointment bouts" against guys who get 3 minutes of ice a game. From what I hear he gets a lot of key minutes for Bingo and by accepting all comers he would only be cutting down on his minutes and risking pointless injury when he has nothing to prove fighting wise.

Now when he's called up he should be looking for every oppertunity to drop em and show that he can fill the HW role for the Sens, and take some pressure off Neil who was flourishing in his role the last few years, scoring points, throwing hits and wrecking LHWs. I'm glad to hear Carkner challenged Thornton, because that means he's willing, and I'd bet would be a majority of the time should he get the chance in Ottawa.