Lockout Departures to Europe

[theknuckler]

Originally Posted by I_am_Belak_2

I mean they are taking jobs away from 3rd and 4th liners in Europe who are earning a shítty paycheck, just barely scraping by. Most of these players are making millions in the NHL. Why do they need to go over there to steal another player's job? That's the lack of support and solidarity I'm talking about.

True, but those players who went to Europe before, took a job from a local guy too. That's the way it works.

[Killah_punk]

Jonathan Eriksson joins his youth team Vita Hästen (White Horse) in Swedish Div. 1

[hebbe_25]

Originally Posted by I_am_Belak_2

I'm sorry, I'm starting to hate these greedy bastards that are going to Europe while the real victims of the lockout, the regular Joe's that work at the arenas selling tickets, food, merch, the janitors, etc are getting laid off. They can't just hop on a jet to another job. And also, these players are taking away the jobs of other players. Nice way to show solidarity and support.

This is exactly what the swedish elite league thinks. Alexander Steen and Matt Duchene are the only two lockout players in the league and 10 out of 12 teams in the league are aginst taking in lockout players.

[Viper207]

Originally Posted by hebbe_25

Yeah, we don't want the best players in the world joining our league! Who needs to fill more than a 4000 seat arena anyways?

[V12_Bi-Turbo]

Originally Posted by Viper207

Yeah, we don't want the best players in the world joining our league! Who needs to fill more than a 4000 seat arena anyways?

Your post is nonsense

Forget about that everyone in the World follows the NHL like mad especially in Sweden where the league has a quality and especially now when the NHL is one big joke overall.
As for your teenage remark about the arena capacity, hockey european countries like Sweden, Finland or Czech republic have around 7 or 10 milions of people. That means of course the arenas are smaller you university mathematic proffesor

Your aproach is exactly what A LOT of people in the World ´´love´´ about north america and its citizens. Forget that everything what is from north america is best for the people in the rest of the World

[skacore]

Originally Posted by Viper207

Yeah, we don't want the best players in the world joining our league! Who needs to fill more than a 4000 seat arena anyways?

Hmm..that arena looks pretty packed without NHL players, I think they're doing OK.

[Big Mac 24]

Yeah, some of the comments are a little ignorant towards the European leagues - Hockey in Russia, Czech republic, Sweden, Finland and Switzerland is huge, and they are regularly selling out a lot of the games. Arenas in the top Swiss league hold between 6 - 8000 as a rule, with Zurich holding 11,000 and Bern holding 17,100 - Bern average between 15 and 16,000 over the last 7 years. As a league average, teams are selling 80% of the tickets per game over a season - Bern, between 90 and 95%!

Davos, where Thornton and Nash are based now, as they were during the last lockout, is the highest city in Europe at 1600m above sea level, and has only 10,000 residents. HC Davos average 5000 per match - the arena holds 7100, but obviously not too accessable in high winter so this attendance average is fantastic too.

Going to watch Zug v Davos tomorrow, with Nash, Thornton against Omark, Diaz (Montreal) Damian Brunner (New Redwing, quoted as top 6 forward by Babcock) and possibly Zetterberg who signed today.

[hebbe_25]

Originally Posted by Viper207

Yeah, we don't want the best players in the world joining our league! Who needs to fill more than a 4000 seat arena anyways?

Average attendance in Europe & Asia last season.
We don't need any lockout players in Sweden!

League Attendance

1.
Sweden - Elitserien
6,385

2.
Switzerland - National League A
6,305

3.
Germany - Deutsche Eishockey Liga
6,060

4.
Russia - Kontinental Hockey League
5,891

5.
Finland - SM-liiga
5,103

6.
Czech Republic - Extraliga
4,824

7.
Austria - EBEL
3,606

8.
Slovakia - Extraliga
2,687

9.
Great Britain - Elite Ice Hockey League
2,028

10.
Norway - Get Ligaen
1,462

11.
France - Ligue Magnus
1,391

12.
Denmark - AL-Bank Liga
1,301

13.
Belarus - Extraliga
1,111

14.
Asia League (CHN/KOR/JPN)
1,024

15.
Italy - Serie A
987

Regular-Season average attendance 2nd-tier leagues Europe


League Attendance

1.
Sweden - Allsvenskan
2,606

2.
Russia - VHL
2,252

3.
Germany - 2. Bundesliga
2,303

4.
Switzerland - National League B
2,112

5.
Finland - Mestis
1,172

6.
Czech Republic - 1. liga
1,130

[V12_Bi-Turbo]

With that attendance in european leagues considering the total ammount of the respective countries citizens NHL arenas should be built for 200 000 people and the teams should sell them out

[straka91]

Never seen a thread so ripe for a Yotes attendence pun lol.

[Chiefs for Life]

Originally Posted by straka91

Never seen a thread so ripe for a Yotes attendence pun lol.

Not worth beating a dead horse.... lol

[Ciccarelli]

The most interesting case in European Icehockey is the HC Ambri-Piotta.

Ambri-Piotta is a small double communal with a population of approximitely 300 people. A pretty small market team. Nonetheless an average of 4.500-5.000 fans are in the stadium every game, and the team usually plays at the bottom of the standings just about every year.

European fans go to watch their team and not their players, if with or without NHL players fans will come to the stadiums anyways.

But in all this you have to take into consideration that NHL ticket prices are way higher then prices in Europe. I bet in cities like Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and others you could have attendances of 50.000 if ticket prices would be as low as in Europe.

[hebbe_25]

Originally Posted by Ciccarelli

But in all this you have to take into consideration that NHL ticket prices are way higher then prices in Europe. I bet in cities like Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and others you could have attendances of 50.000 if ticket prices would be as low as in Europe.

True but they are million cities. You don't have many cities in hockey-europe with that kind of population.

[Big Mac 24]

Originally Posted by Ciccarelli

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But in all this you have to take into consideration that NHL ticket prices are way higher then prices in Europe. I bet in cities like Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and others you could have attendances of 50.000 if ticket prices would be as low as in Europe.

Switzerland ain't cheap to go watch a game.

Standing tickets start at equivalent 30 dollars, cheapest seats at 60 dollars.

Playoff matches in Bern for the same tickets are 100 dollars and 150 dollars

[Ciccarelli]

Originally Posted by Big Mac 24

Switzerland ain't cheap to go watch a game.

Standing tickets start at equivalent 30 dollars, cheapest seats at 60 dollars.

Playoff matches in Bern for the same tickets are 100 dollars and 150 dollars

True, but you guys in Switzerland are all rich.

In Italy you pay between 10 and 40 dollars, but the hockey you get to see is not even worth that amount.