General Rumors

[fcm]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

The first trade, I'd do, although I'd hate to see Moen leave.
The third trade I'd make, although I would not include Moen. Plekanec and Gill I can do without.

Well in the first trade, Travis Moen leaves, but Clifford comes. Clifford is better than Moen IMO, as a fighter and as a player, and he's younger.

[gdameo]

Originally Posted by mongoose

The latest Trade rumours A.Kostitsyn,Moen,Gill to LA for Clifford,Stoll and a 2nd Rounder
Plekanec and Kaberle to Winnipeg for Antropov and Hainsey or
Plekanec Moen and HGill to Rags for Dubinsky Christenson and Stralman

geez you posted like 1000000 different trade rumors related to the habs

how about you post the link for a source proof?

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by fcm

Well in the first trade, Travis Moen leaves, but Clifford comes. Clifford is better than Moen IMO, as a fighter and as a player, and he's younger.

Agreed on all your points. However I'd like to have both of them on the team.

[fcm]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

Agreed on all your points. However I'd like to have both of them on the team.

No sh1t, but I guess the Kings do not want to lose a fighter without getting one back.

[NickDoh]

That trade makes little sense for the Kings. MAYBE Stoll/Kostitsyn part. But it's a stretch. Kings have a specific need; a LW that can contribute on the PP. For all the reasons fcm listed plus more, Clifford/Moen would never happen. There isn't a person in the Kings organization that doesn't love Clifford and what he brings.

Edit: Not to mention the Gill aspect of it... LESS than zero need for a Dman on the Kings.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by NickDoh

That trade makes little sense for the Kings. MAYBE Stoll/Kostitsyn part. But it's a stretch. Kings have a specific need; a LW that can contribute on the PP. For all the reasons fcm listed plus more, Clifford/Moen would never happen. There isn't a person in the Kings organization that doesn't love Clifford and what he brings.

Edit: Not to mention the Gill aspect of it... LESS than zero need for a Dman on the Kings.

You're looking at it wrong though.

It would be a Kost/Clifford .. and a Moen/Stoll. Gill is there because he is a proven playoff dman, who can shut down the other teams better players. Beyond that, I'm sure they would let him go.

[mongoose]

Originally Posted by gdameo

geez you posted like 1000000 different trade rumors related to the habs

how about you post the link for a source proof?

HF Boards has tons of these trade Rumors no where near a Million though,Last i checked this was a General Rumors Thread??? Ill try to get some links on here i guess .

[lakingsfan19]

Hey Nick, it's the Habs we are talking about. Nothing to worry about, they don't want Clifford... Probably looking at Lewis, fits their style more.

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by mongoose

HF Boards has tons of these trade Rumors no where near a Million though,Last i checked this was a General Rumors Thread??? Ill try to get some links on here i guess .

sources should be posted to make you not seem like a fool or are to be believed or not depending on who they are from.

ill bet too, most of those you posted are even from sources just fans making up what they would like to see.

[NickDoh]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

You're looking at it wrong though.

It would be a Kost/Clifford .. and a Moen/Stoll. Gill is there because he is a proven playoff dman, who can shut down the other teams better players. Beyond that, I'm sure they would let him go.

Granted I know we're just discussing rumors (absurd ones at that). But.

It makes even less sense that way! Like I said, the Kings needs are very specific, Kost comes close but does not fill those. He would be the only part of the deal the Kings would kind of want but then the rest of the move isn't worth the trouble. As a whole it benefits the Kings in no way whatsoever.

And just to reiterate; They have no room for Gill at all if they don't move one, if not multiple, Dmen themselves. Johnson, Doughty, Scuderi, Greene, Voynov, Mitchell, Martinez, maybe he'd be ahead of Drewiskie... He does not fit.

I will admit his (Gill) salary is "okay" and teams would be interested, just not LA.

[mongoose]

Originally Posted by chilly666

sources should be posted to make you not seem like a fool or are to be believed or not depending on who they are from.

ill bet too, most of those you posted are even from sources just fans making up what they would like to see.

oh your most likely correct No fans are more fickle than Hab Fans ,I was just throwing those rumors out there to see if anyone else had heard them.Im not really in the practice of just making Hockey trades up off the top of my head.Some people on this site are a tad too combative and pessimistic IMO and would run and hide in a corner if confronted face to face.

[mongoose]

Originally Posted by mongoose

HF Boards has tons of these trade Rumors no where near a Million though,Last i checked this was a General Rumors Thread??? Ill try to get some links on here i guess .

How do you post links???

[chilly666]

copy the link and paste it below the partial article or tweet

blah blah blah blah

General Rumors

or Aaron Asham Out Indefinitely With Concussion Symptoms thread

quote tags is the button with the scribbles in it and the link button is the earth with links in it

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by NickDoh

Granted I know we're just discussing rumors (absurd ones at that). But.

It makes even less sense that way! Like I said, the Kings needs are very specific, Kost comes close but does not fill those. He would be the only part of the deal the Kings would kind of want but then the rest of the move isn't worth the trouble. As a whole it benefits the Kings in no way whatsoever.

And just to reiterate; They have no room for Gill at all if they don't move one, if not multiple, Dmen themselves. Johnson, Doughty, Scuderi, Greene, Voynov, Mitchell, Martinez, maybe he'd be ahead of Drewiskie... He does not fit.

I will admit his (Gill) salary is "okay" and teams would be interested, just not LA.

While I do agree with you, and do not think this trade has any substance to it. If indeed the teams were talking, I would not, at all, be surprised that the team would want Gill. I would bet they would drop a starting dman for Gill, especially in the playoffs.

I think Kost also fills a need that the Kings lack, scoring. He still has the potential to do better than he has. Although he also could just be another waste of a 1st round draft pick.

Of course this trade is highly unlikely to happen, but as a Habs fan, I'd love to see it go through.

[fcm]

The rumors are stronger than ever about Andrei Kostitsyn. He will probably wear a Kings' jersey. Kyle Clifford would be the one that Pierre Gauthier is interested in, but also Voynov and Loktionov.

The announce should be made this afternoon or tonight if there is a trade.

Via Patrick Caisse (TVA Sports journalist)
https://twitter.com/#!/patrickcaisse...06850976002048

Edit: Another hockey website talks about it now: http://www.toutsurlehockey.com/11206...a-los-angeles/

The Habs are officially offering their established players for youngsters and draft picks.
http://patrickcaisse.tvasports.ca/ge...thier-vendeur/