Flyers Sign Shea Weber to Offer Sheet; Nashville Matches

[vznyisleszv]

Originally Posted by FrontLineAdmirals

and with the division he would be moving to, he is going to have to be even more physical than usual.

yup. so basically, shea just signed a 14 year contract with the preds. he must love nashville.

[Chiefs for Life]

Originally Posted by chilly666

via Kypreos


it all equals 14 yrs, $110 million

Does Philly have to pay Weber 68 million in signing bonuses upon signing, because there is 52 million in signing bonuses in the first four years, and 16 million in the years five and six....

If so this contract is Horse ****, and the league should step in and prevent teams from front ending contracts, I have also never heard of players signing for bonuses, unless it was and entry level deal... The League should charge Philly with Cap circumvention, because this is purely what this ridiculous contract is.... My opinion has nothing to do with the team that is doing it, I didn't like the Suter and Parisee to Wild deals, I thought that was cap circumvention also....


If I was Nashville I would sign Shea to spike him and then send him to Montreal or Toronto, so the peppers or Ontariens,can rape him for more than half of his money in Taxes, that would be a fitting parting shot to Shea and Philly, or sign him and tell Philly they want Sean Courturiere, Byaden Schenn, and Luke Schenn, if not they trade him to Pittsburgh for next to nothing, just to give Holmgren the finger....... that just me though ...lol

[Corpse]

People are really over looking some key obvious points here. It has been made clear that there were 4 teams in the running as far as a trade for Shea Weber. What the Flyers have done here is narrow that down to only them for the next 7 days and eliminated the chance it wasn't them but someone they will be competing with. They have also put a Nashville in a spot to have to hand over 27 million in the next calander year and 56 within the next 4 years. Key here is it's a signing bonus.

I think this was a brilliant move by Holmgren, he's put the Flyers in the drivers seat in regards to Shea Weber. The only person Nashville can deal with now is the Flyers for the next 7 days, so instead of standing on the sidewalk watching him drive by with another team out bidding the Flyers and getting him they are the one's in charge.

Worse case scenerio, Nashville matches and Shea Weber stays in Nashville and out of the Eastern Conference.

I stand by my original post when making the thread, I think there is more in play here. Homer and Poille have a good relationship and I think this has big trade written all over. Poille had all the leverage yesterday at this time, not now though. He can match it but finacially it will put them in a tough spot, I think they work out a trade in the end.

[Corpse]

Originally Posted by Chiefs for Life

Does Philly have to pay Weber 68 million in signing bonuses upon signing, because there is 52 million in signing bonuses in the first four years, and 16 million in the years five and six....

If so this contract is Horse ****, and the league should step in and prevent teams from front ending contracts, I have also never heard of players signing for bonuses, unless it was and entry level deal... The League should charge Philly with Cap circumvention, because this is purely what this ridiculous contract is.... My opinion has nothing to do with the team that is doing it, I didn't like the Suter and Parisee to Wild deals, I thought that was cap circumvention also....


If I was Nashville I would sign Shea to spike him and then send him to Montreal or Toronto, so the peppers or Ontariens,can rape him for more than half of his money in Taxes, that would be a fitting parting shot to Shea and Philly, or sign him and tell Philly they want Sean Courturiere, Byaden Schenn, and Luke Schenn, if not they trade him to Pittsburgh for next to nothing, just to give Holmgren the finger....... that just me though ...lol

Your knowledge level of everything you just commented on is very low to put it kindly.

[Philly Fan 27]

Originally Posted by Corpse

People are really over looking some key obvious points here. It has been made clear that there were 4 teams in the running as far as a trade for Shea Weber. What the Flyers have done here is narrow that down to only them for the next 7 days and eliminated the chance it wasn't them but someone they will be competing with. They have also put a Nashville in a spot to have to hand over 27 million in the next calander year and 56 within the next 4 years. Key here is it's a signing bonus.

I think this was a brilliant move by Holmgren, he's put the Flyers in the drivers seat in regards to Shea Weber. The only person Nashville can deal with now is the Flyers for the next 7 days, so instead of standing on the sidewalk watching him drive by with another team out bidding the Flyers and getting him they are the one's in charge.

Worse case scenerio, Nashville matches and Shea Weber stays in Nashville and out of the Eastern Conference.

I stand by my original post when making the thread, I think there is more in play here. Homer and Poille have a good relationship and I think this has big trade written all over. Poille had all the leverage yesterday at this time, not now though. He can match it but finacially it will put them in a tough spot, I think they work out a trade in the end.

bill meltzer was speculating that nashville may not match, and would trade the flyers 1st rounders back to them for roster players. read/voraceck/meszaros hopefully.

[Chiefs for Life]

Originally Posted by Corpse

People are really over looking some key obvious points here. It has been made clear that there were 4 teams in the running as far as a trade for Shea Weber. What the Flyers have done here is narrow that down to only them for the next 7 days and eliminated the chance it wasn't them but someone they will be competing with. They have also put a Nashville in a spot to have to hand over 27 million in the next calander year and 56 within the next 4 years. Key here is it's a signing bonus.

I think this was a brilliant move by Holmgren, he's put the Flyers in the drivers seat in regards to Shea Weber. The only person Nashville can deal with now is the Flyers for the next 7 days, so instead of standing on the sidewalk watching him drive by with another team out bidding the Flyers and getting him they are the one's in charge.

Worse case scenerio, Nashville matches and Shea Weber stays in Nashville and out of the Eastern Conference.

I stand by my original post when making the thread, I think there is more in play here. Homer and Poille have a good relationship and I think this has big trade written all over. Poille had all the leverage yesterday at this time, not now though. He can match it but finacially it will put them in a tough spot, I think they work out a trade in the end.

Does this really put Philly in the drivers seat, or does it open a one week window were all teams will call Nashville and offer them the moon for the Weber contract, Nashville can sign him, an trade him getting the deal they want....

[chilly666]

nashville can't sign him then trade him right away guy...they have to wait a year.

[Corpse]

Originally Posted by Chiefs for Life

Does this really put Philly in the drivers seat, or does it open a one week window were all teams will call Nashville and offer them the moon for the Weber contract, Nashville can sign him, an trade him getting the deal they want....

Nashville cannot trade him for 1 calender year if they match. The only person they can deal with is the Flyers in the next 7 days.

[RetardedChimp]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan 27

bill meltzer was speculating that nashville may not match, and would trade the flyers 1st rounders back to them for roster players. read/voraceck/meszaros hopefully.

That would be spiffy.

[Corpse]

Originally Posted by chilly666

nashville can't sign him then trade him right away guy...they have to wait a year.

Chilly I'm at work and don't have time to read through it all but question for you, what if the Flyers added a NMC in to this contract? Whch is highly likely given the player and everything else, if Nashville says the hell with we'll pay him all this money this year and then trade him next year but there is a NMC can they?

[Corpse]

Originally Posted by RetardedChimp

That would be spiffy.

I read on Twitter last night somewhere that they figured the Flyers have a deal in the works for Ryan still and needed the Weber thing resolved to move forward.

Imagine of Nashville doesn't match, pretty easy to justify a package like that for Ryan after.

[Chiefs for Life]

Originally Posted by Corpse

Your knowledge level of everything you just commented on is very low to put it kindly.

Sorry I didn't have time to study the old CBA, I was more asking questions on how the bonus structure works since signing bonuses are usually payed upon signing( as per NFL and NBA) and there is 68 million in signing bonuses...

Again I am not a fan of offer sheets, and I am not a fan of front loaded contracts, These contracts just prove the rich get richer, and Fucckk the little guys who do there homework, develop and draft well... Again this is just my point of view...

I also see the point of view with Nashville trading back Philly's first round picks to philly, for roster players... least Nashville will not be getting totally fleeced on the deal.....

[flyersrule]

Originally Posted by Philly Fan 27

bill meltzer was speculating that nashville may not match, and would trade the flyers 1st rounders back to them for roster players. read/voraceck/meszaros hopefully.

id take that deal in a heatbeat. maybe let em keep a 1st too.

[mckendo83]

Originally Posted by Chiefs for Life

Does Philly have to pay Weber 68 million in signing bonuses upon signing, because there is 52 million in signing bonuses in the first four years, and 16 million in the years five and six....

If so this contract is Horse ****, and the league should step in and prevent teams from front ending contracts, I have also never heard of players signing for bonuses, unless it was and entry level deal... The League should charge Philly with Cap circumvention, because this is purely what this ridiculous contract is.... My opinion has nothing to do with the team that is doing it, I didn't like the Suter and Parisee to Wild deals, I thought that was cap circumvention also....


If I was Nashville I would sign Shea to spike him and then send him to Montreal or Toronto, so the peppers or Ontariens,can rape him for more than half of his money in Taxes, that would be a fitting parting shot to Shea and Philly, or sign him and tell Philly they want Sean Courturiere, Byaden Schenn, and Luke Schenn, if not they trade him to Pittsburgh for next to nothing, just to give Holmgren the finger....... that just me though ...lol

Too answer your post bluntly...NO.

it is not 68M up front so settle down your rant is unfounded.

Also, Webber has been in nashville for 7 seasons... maybe the guy wants a chance to WIN before his career is over rather then spend another 10 seasons in a sh*t market. The players are accountable also, this wasnt a trade no one forced Webber to sign.

[Chiefs for Life]

Originally Posted by mckendo83

Too answer your post bluntly...NO.

it is not 68M up front so settle down your rant is unfounded.

Also, Webber has been in nashville for 7 seasons... maybe the guy wants a chance to WIN before his career is over rather then spend another 10 seasons in a sh*t market. The players are accountable also, this wasnt a trade no one forced Webber to sign.

So can you please explain how the 68 million in signing bonuses is supposed to be distriputed.....