Flyers Deal Simon Gagne to Tampa Bay for Matt Walker, Draft Pick

[bruiser11]

Philly beefing up as usual.

[nyrpack]

i like walker alot, but give up gagne for him and a draft choice, terrible deal for philly, should have gotten alot more for a goal scorer like gagne !!

[Killah_punk]

Im surprised Gagne didn't end up in LA once Kovy signed with the Devils.

[BStreetBullies]

Best of luck to Gagne, some incredible memories of him here in Philly.

Clear cap dump move, the biggest return in this trade is the cap space, but is quite nice to have all this toughness on the squad, quite a solid blue line as well.

[Dick Cheney]

The Flyers are looking pretty nice next season. A good balance of toughness and skill. The Atlantic division is gonna be a helluva race.

[Gage55]

Originally Posted by Flyers2001

Why doesn't Zherdev deserve to play ion this team? Esp at 2 million. IMO, his production is going to be better than gagne's and he will be making half his salary.

These lines are nice:

Hartnell Briere Leino

JVR Carter Zherdev

Carcillo Richards Giroux

Shelly Betts Lappy

"Powe"

Pronger - Carle
Timo - Cobourn
Walker/OD - Mesz

Thats a deep well rounded team. Possibly best defense in the league.

And we did **** all at goaltender, it's going to be the same story untill we do, but that is besides the point, the point is I don't think any real flyer fan can say they would rather see Zherdev than Gagne on this team, and you also have Zherdev above Giroux on your line up their, whats with the hardon for Zherdev?

[forsberg21]

Originally Posted by Humpzilla

Yeah. Stevie Y went to a hospital and kidnapped the most athletic paraplegic.

Basically...

I almost want to say that this works out for Philly more. Matt Walker is imo a solid physical defenceman, aswell as a great fighter, a rarity and his toughness was badly badly needed in tampa. He really rounds out Philly and they are gonna be fun to watch. Gagne, talented as he maybe, is a band-aid. He's got talent, but he has a hell of a salary, is inconsistant, and really doesn't bring something that Tampa doesn't already have (and Walker does). If Tampa manages to make the playoffs, which i don't think they will, then this could be huge for them. Until then, i'd rather be philly here.

But don't get me wrong, this isn't necesarily a bad move by Steve Y. Adding someone as talented as Gagne will always be good in some form. Maybe Tampa can put someone else on the trading block now? Or hell, Yzerman could just turn around and trade Gagne to another team.

[Toasteroven]

Yzerman's moves as GM are not really surprising. It's not just that he learned the trade from Holland and is influenced by him, but he recognizes that the game has changed, too. I'm as bothered by the Wings lack of toughness as anyone, but other teams don't make them pay.

Teams don't dress enforcers against the Wings, and even seem to play less physical against them in general. I would think that running the stars and trying to push the team around would be a good strategy, but I rarely see it. Anaheim plays the Wings pretty tough, and they've had a lot of success versus the Wings. Other teams should follow the Ducks lead, but they don't.

It sure seems like teams don't [b]need[/B to be tough anymore, which is pretty depressing.

[acdcrocksno1]

Originally Posted by Toasteroven

Yzerman's moves as GM are not really surprising. It's not just that he learned the trade from Holland and is influenced by him, but he recognizes that the game has changed, too. I'm as bothered by the Wings lack of toughness as anyone, but other teams don't make them pay.

Teams don't dress enforcers against the Wings, and even seem to play less physical against them in general. I would think that running the stars and trying to push the team around would be a good strategy, but I rarely see it. Anaheim plays the Wings pretty tough, and they've had a lot of success versus the Wings. Other teams should follow the Ducks lead, but they don't.

It sure seems like teams don't [b]need[/B to be tough anymore, which is pretty depressing.

In the Flyers one game against them this year they played pretty physical against them

[Isles4life]

I am well aware this was a salary dump by the Flyers, and Gagne with his hefty price tag is incredibly injury prone and likely has his best year behind him even though he's still only 30. But he can still be a pretty big impact player on offense if he can ever find a way to stay healthy. Adding him to the Lightning makes their already solid offense significantly more dangerous.

I know giving up Walker, who I like a lot, leaves Tampa desperately in need of a physical presence, but this is still a great trade for Tampa Bay. I'm really surprised the Flyers didn't get any better offers.

[smashem]

Is Wrecker still Avail haven't checked the Trans. lately, Too bad had to get rid of Gagne Walker pretty tough kid, But i am also starting to wonder are the Flyer's really this afraid of the Boogey man the only 1 that could give him a decent go is Shelley and i don't give him much of a chance. Maybe 70's Hockey again which I'm all for the only prob for the Flyer's is half of these guy's will dress and if they do there will be a ton of PP's for the other club and for the thing you dont have in net thats a prob

[Philly Fan 27]

Originally Posted by smashem

Is Wrecker still Avail haven't checked the Trans. lately, Too bad had to get rid of Gagne Walker pretty tough kid, But i am also starting to wonder are the Flyer's really this afraid of the Boogey man the only 1 that could give him a decent go is Shelley and i don't give him much of a chance. Maybe 70's Hockey again which I'm all for the only prob for the Flyer's is half of these guy's will dress and if they do there will be a ton of PP's for the other club and for the thing you dont have in net thats a prob

lol, you think they traded gagne to get tougher?

[Flyers2001]

Originally Posted by Gage55

And we did **** all at goaltender, it's going to be the same story untill we do, but that is besides the point, the point is I don't think any real flyer fan can say they would rather see Zherdev than Gagne on this team, and you also have Zherdev above Giroux on your line up their, whats with the hardon for Zherdev?

My hardon for Zherdev is he will out produce gagne this year at half his salary.

Pick your poison with the lines I choose. They are in no way a listing of how good the players are but who they may be playing with.

Try to use your brain a little bit.

[canuck2]

Gagne has not been the same player for years. He's on the decline.