Flyers' Carcillo Suspended One Game

Originally Posted by Isles4life

I don't care what team you're a fan of, there is no way to justify this crap by the league. I don't think this play deserved 2 minutes, let alone anything beyond that. This is one of the most pointless rulings the league has ever made in my opinion, and they've made quite a few. They've already almost completely removed the risk of games getting out of hand because of their automatic suspension for instigating in the last 5 minutes. They're that scared of a little pushing and shoving at the end of the game that they're going to suspend Carcillo essentially for being on the ice and taking a face off? He didn't butt-end Talbot. He barely freakin' touched him! What a f*cking disgraceful decision...

If you don't want teams "sending messages" that they won't be as easy to play against in the next game of the series, why bother even having playoff series? Why not just let a single game decide who advances? Or why not create a round robin format so teams won't start to dislike one another from playing each other multiple games in a row? And since faceoffs late in a game provide such a perfect opportunity to "send a message", why even have them? For the entire third period, I think the referee should just throw the puck into a random corner after a stoppage in play and let all of the players chase after it.

Any of that makes much more sense to me than suspending Carcillo.

Not Steve Webb for commissioner, Isles4life for commissioner. Glad to see someone doesn't have their head up their ass.

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by Rugged

You're an idiot.

And, no, I don't think a suspension was deserved. I didn't see a butt-end. I saw an elbow. Maybe I'm missing something?

how am i an idiot? we all now that it was bull**** and guerin made a bigger scene with his stunt and got away with it.

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

How the hell did Guerin instigate it. Let's hear it. Him and Coburn were going back and forth after the hit on Staal, and then on the ensuing faceoff, Coburn slashes him in the legs so Guerin cross checked him back and they fought. Show me the instigator in that.

what the hell were you watching? coburn was next to guerin as he started cross checking him and slashing him on the faceoff. that's instigating and sending a message and he should have got a suspension too.

[Philly Fan 27]

this is one of the worst things ive seen the nhl do. this was nothing, and now carcillo misses a playoff game and stevens is down something like 10 grand. unbelievable really. people wonder why flyers fans think the league has it out for the flyers. i'm pretty sure the name on his back and logo on his sweater had something to do w/ the suspension.

i think the worst part is stevens is out money b/c he put carcillo on the ice for the face off. is the nhl gonna start telling coaches who then can play and when they can play them? i'm so baffled by this ruling it almost makes me look at hockey completely differently. this is playoff hockey and they don't want teams sending messages?

[Mike Tython]

Originally Posted by acd1

NEWSFLASH - Maxime Talbot, you're taking a faceoff against Dan Carcillo at the end of an already decided game, right after Guerin instigated a fight against the Flyers top icetime D-guy (Coburn)

I'll ask you this time...explain to me how Guerin instigated that fight.

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

I'll ask you this time...explain to me how Guerin instigated that fight.

he cross checked and slahed coburn a couple times which then forced coburn to grow a pair fight back. coburn just wanted to get the game over with.

[Mike Tython]

Apparently you didn't see Coburn's slash to Guerin's legs right as the puck dropped.

[lakingsfan19]

Originally Posted by Skorka85

Not head butt. Butt end, as in with the end of the stick, and yes, he did hit him with at least his glove on the follow through. Still not suspension worthy.

oh, i read it wrong. Still look like good acting from the pens player.

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

Apparently you didn't see Coburn's slash to Guerin's legs right as the puck dropped.

i did but that doesn't give guerin a right to go ape**** and force coburn to drop the gloves. a slash back yes, more than one and forcing him to throwdown = instigating.

[Mike Tython]

It all started before that faceoff even happened when Staal got hit from behind. Guerin and him were pushing and shoving and about to throw down there. At the faceoff, Coburn whacks Guerin's legs and Guerin after him.

It's funny that Guerin shouldn't have gone after him when he gets slashed in the leg, but Talbot should have gone after Carcillo. Make up your freakin minds.

[vandymeer13]

If they wouldn't have that gay ass 5 min rule this wouldn't happen. It wasn't even that bad Talbot's a *****. The NhL is begging players to deliver cheap shots so the yeam recieving the cheap shot takes a penalty. It's ****ing pathetic.

[knucklesamwitch]

The League sends out a memo about message sending then sends its own message by a joke of a suspension to an easy target. I'm not Excusing Carcillo here but part of the reason he did this was another gem of a rule, the 5 minute rule. Then they fine the Coach, and that always infuriates me. HTF is it legal to tell a coach what players he's allowed to play late in game ? I think I recall them doing this to Trottier when he was the rags coach.

I love the sport of hockey And I watch NCAA & Olympics where there isnt fighting and still enjoy the game, But the underhanded way the league is going about it with these little add on rules each year is sickening. You have teams going at each other every other night for two weeks. Sometimes the steam valve needs released. I'm sure the NHL higher ups will act sufficiently shocked when a frustrated player tries to hit a homerun with a guy like Matt Cookes head.

[mattyp]

Definate b!tch move by Carcillo, but not worthy of a suspension. 2 Minutes for roughing then a beating by Godard in the next game would have been apropriate. I do think Talbot was doing his best Greg Louganis, but he did get hit so a minor penalty was merited but not given.

[bupz91]

thats a hell of a butt end. . Dumb as hell move by buttman

[Habs # 1]

Mike Cammalleri just pulled a Carcillo on Martin Havlat... expect a one gamer for him as well.

[Corpse]

Now it gets real interesting with the incident between Havlat and Cammilerri. If the league doesn't suspend him then one has to really lean towards this is an act by the league to protect there poster boys team. The hit was alot harder and is the exact same thing so it will very interesting to see what they do about it. I think it wasn't a suspendable offense but I also reconize the intent behind it by Carcillo. It is just a hockey play that 5 years ago would have went no where unless the Penguins dealt with it themselves but the direction the league is taking has taken away from the game in every aspect.