Flames Acquire Mike Cammalleri for Rene Bourque

[Chiefs for Life]

As a Hockey fan you never want to see your team make a knee jerk reaction, but like in all trades it doesn't always pan out in the first few seasons, I remember the Montreal Canadiens trading Craig Rivest away for a player named Josh Gorges and a first round pick, that first round pick ended up being Max Pacioretty, who won that trade, Everyone was saying the Sharks won that deal, because they filled a gap that they needed for a play-off run, but in the end Montreal has both peices of there deal as core guys on the team, and Rivest is in the minors somewere.....


Micheal Cammalleri for Rene Bourque seems to be a better deal for Calgary, but the fact that Montreal got Patrick Holland, who is a prospect that is lighting it up in the WHL this season, and a second round pick in next years draft is alot of future bounty that might pay off, you never know... Calgary got the rights to Karry Rammo and Montreal's fifth round pick from this year, Montreal has no use for Rammo, with Price playing 90% of the work load, but I would have tried not to give up the fifth round pick, but that is just me......


Next on the clean out list is Chris Campoli, he is another player that is not benefitting by not playing, and the Canadiens need his number 17 for Rene Bourque.....lol

Yannick Weber is also working his way out of Montreal, but atleast he is putting up some numbers when he does play, making his value higher than a guy like Chris Campoli......

[flamesblackace]

Cammi, Cammi, Cammi - Oi! Oi! Oi!

...And just in time to squeak into the playoffs

[Thrillhouse]

Originally Posted by flamesblackace

...And just in time to squeak into the playoffs

lol

[Chiefs for Life]

Originally Posted by flamesblackace

Cammi, Cammi, Cammi - Oi! Oi! Oi!

...And just in time to squeak into the playoffs

You guys have fun keeping Cammi Healthy, and We will have fun trying to keep Rene's elbows down.....LOL

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by Chiefs for Life

You guys have fun keeping Cammi Healthy, and We will have fun trying to keep Rene's elbows down.....LOL

I think Campoli was already moved.

This is a great move for MTL. Yes they lose a dynamic scorer who could pot in 40 goals. But they have a potential 20-25 goal scorer, freed up almost 3 million in cap space, and added size to the top 2 forward lines.

With Blunden up, Moen, Cole, White almost back, and Bourque, they have at least gotten bigger. Yes they may not fight, but that is not what is needed right away. (I'm sure they will try and get another player or 2 who will be along the lines of a Moen -- and that is perfect for me).

Hopefully, they dump Diaz or Weber and give Henry a shot.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by fcm

Question, because I'm not too good with questions related to cap space: if Gomez plays in Hamilton, does that mean that he is not going to take space anymore on our cap space?

I do believe if Gomez is in the minors, he is off the books (although obviously he still would be paid by MTL) .

The question is, are the Molson Bros. ready to drop 8mil. to the farm team?

[fcm]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

The question is, are the Molson Bros. ready to drop 8mil. to the farm team?

I'd do so. It's 8 millions a year for a guy that isn't good enough to play on the pro team, or 8 millions for a guy that plays in the AHL. In both cases, it's 8 millions of dollars of waste. I still prefer seeing Gomez playing in the AHL and giving the Bulldogs a push, because they really suck with the lack of youngsters.

[mongoose]

Originally Posted by fcm

I'd do so. It's 8 millions a year for a guy that isn't good enough to play on the pro team, or 8 millions for a guy that plays in the AHL. In both cases, it's 8 millions of dollars of waste. I still prefer seeing Gomez playing in the AHL and giving the Bulldogs a push, because they really suck with the lack of youngsters.

The Rangers are doing it right now with Redden and look how good they are playing.

[fcm]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

Hopefully, they dump Diaz or Weber and give Henry a shot.

Hopefully, they drop Darche and Nokelainen in the AHL (or waivers) and they sign George Parros on july 1st. And for them whining about the lack of Quebecers on the team (since Darche is gone), you sign Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond. If both do not want, well no problem, there are other enforcers on the market this summer such as Hordichuk, Barch, Thornton, Scott or Janssen.

On the defense, they have to get rid of Campoli, Weber and Gill.

Gill -> you replace him on the UFA market with Jim Vandermeer for a good two years, until the 6 ft 7 Tinordi comes in.
Campoli -> You don't replace him.
Weber -> We don't need offensive d-men anymore since we have Subban and Beaulieu.

During those seasons, you tank with one well-placed first round pick and you also try to get another first rounder in the 20-30 range by getting rid of Kaberle/Gomez/Gionta/Kostitsyn/etc.

Next year, your roster looks like that:

Max Pacioretty - David Desharnais - Erik Cole
Rene Bourque - Tomas Plekanec - Brian Gionta
Travis Moen - Lars Eller - Andrei Kostitsyn
George Parros - Ryan White - Louis Leblanc -> If needed (maybe 20-30 games a year), Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond instead of Louis Leblanc.

P.K. Subban - Josh Gorges
Andrei Markov - Tomas Kaberle
Alexei Emelin - Jim Vandermeer

By the way, next year, you must have Alex Henry called up (instead of Emelin I guess) at least for 10 games. Call him up for the games against Boston and I'll be happy. He can play 15 games, I think, before having to pass through the waivers and such. He definitly can't play at the NHL level for too many games but he will be more effective than Emelin, Kaberle or Gorges to get rid of Milan Lucic in front of the net.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by fcm

Hopefully, they drop Darche and Nokelainen in the AHL (or waivers) and they sign George Parros on july 1st. And for them whining about the lack of Quebecers on the team (since Darche is gone), you sign Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond. If both do not want, well no problem, there are other enforcers on the market this summer such as Hordichuk, Barch, Thornton, Scott or Janssen.

On the defense, they have to get rid of Campoli, Weber and Gill.

Gill -> you replace him on the UFA market with Jim Vandermeer for a good two years, until the 6 ft 7 Tinordi comes in.
Campoli -> You don't replace him.
Weber -> We don't need offensive d-men anymore since we have Subban and Beaulieu.

During those seasons, you tank with one well-placed first round pick and you also try to get another first rounder in the 20-30 range by getting rid of Kaberle/Gomez/Gionta/Kostitsyn/etc.

Next year, your roster looks like that:

Max Pacioretty - David Desharnais - Erik Cole
Rene Bourque - Tomas Plekanec - Brian Gionta
Travis Moen - Lars Eller - Andrei Kostitsyn
George Parros - Ryan White - Louis Leblanc -> If needed (maybe 20-30 games a year), Pierre-Luc Letourneau-Leblond instead of Louis Leblanc.

P.K. Subban - Josh Gorges
Andrei Markov - Tomas Kaberle
Alexei Emelin - Jim Vandermeer

By the way, next year, you must have Alex Henry called up (instead of Emelin I guess) at least for 10 games. Call him up for the games against Boston and I'll be happy. He can play 15 games, I think, before having to pass through the waivers and such. He definitly can't play at the NHL level for too many games but he will be more effective than Emelin, Kaberle or Gorges to get rid of Milan Lucic in front of the net.

Although I agree with alot of what you're lineup would look like. DD is not a 1st line centre, more like a 3rd line spark plug. AK has to be dumped, he is a waste of 3mil. He will never thrive in MTL, hopefully they move him at the deadline.

Let LeBlanc grow in the minors. No need to rush him. They would be better off with Blunden in that spot.

As for Markov & Kaberle, I can't see this team having both of them, although I guess it is possible. If they do so, they need to get a couple of big stay at home dmen to allow these guys to play their game.

Emelin is a waste of a roster spot. Pure hype and has done nothing to impress this year.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by mongoose

The Rangers are doing it right now with Redden and look how good they are playing.

Oh, I know. The question is, is MTL ownership ready to do the same?

[Chiefs for Life]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

I think Campoli was already moved.

Nope he is still on the team, there was no trade made yet, hence why Rene Bourque is using the old Alex Kovalev number 27.....

[fcm]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

Although I agree with alot of what you're lineup would look like. DD is not a 1st line centre, more like a 3rd line spark plug. AK has to be dumped, he is a waste of 3mil. He will never thrive in MTL, hopefully they move him at the deadline.

Well we're pretty much screwed, since he actually is our best centreman. He is the only one that makes his wingers better (Cole, Pacioretty and even Cammalleri had 2 goals with DD). And by the way, this isn't really the first line. With Randy Cunneyworth, the third line can have as much ice time as the 1st line if they are working harder.

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

Let LeBlanc grow in the minors. No need to rush him. They would be better off with Blunden in that spot.

He did well. Next year he'll be 21 years old, he must be ready for the big league.

[Redtown]

Originally Posted by RayzorEdge

Wow! Whether you hate Cammalleri or not for what he said, can the Habs honestly say that trade couldn't wait another hour? Talk about classless.

Classless, really?
You're clueless.

[bruins34]

I think that this is a step in the right direction for a franchise that's been shooting itself in the foot for the last few years. As a Bruins fan, I've enjoyed watching the Habs become also-rans in recent seasons, but, as a hockey fan, it's bad for the NHL when its most storied franchise is in disarray. The small, fast, and skilled approach hasn't yielded much and fight-wise, the Habs have been pathetic by design. Picking up some larger-sized talent and, hopefully, guys who are WILLING to fight seems logical. The recent versions of this team have been mouthy and sneaky but about as intimidating as a poodle. Shayne Corson would have looked like Godzilla on this team.

As for the way they traded Cammalleri, it's an either/or deal. If they yanked him on purpose, then that's classless and the franchise should be bigger than any player regardless of what he said. However, it seems equally plausible that they just wanted to protect #13 from any potential injuries. Just my two cents as a Bruins fan. The rebuilding on the fly should be fun to watch.