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Old 01-30-2010, 03:25 PM
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Pretty easy to explain. Richards hit Booth legally with his shoulder, not to mention Green was looking for revenge. Green lead the whole way with his elbow. Looked like he was trying to do the "Cormier"

Also Green left the game with a "charley horse".....thats just sad.
where was the puck when he made that "legal hit"? mike richards wont get suspended b/c he's captain canada, almost untouchable if you will, he plays more on the edge of legal/illegal then almost anyone in this league. The day he gets suspended for something is the day i will retract my words on him

as far as the hit goes, it was awful, he led with his elbow caught frolik right on the chin, punishment fits the crime. His knee injury later in the game could have very easily been avoided if he didn't think so highly of his dangling skills. Go through the hit, not around it you fuc*ing *****
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:45 PM
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where was the puck when he made that "legal hit"? mike richards wont get suspended b/c he's captain canada, almost untouchable if you will, he plays more on the edge of legal/illegal then almost anyone in this league. The day he gets suspended for something is the day i will retract my words on him

as far as the hit goes, it was awful, he led with his elbow caught frolik right on the chin, punishment fits the crime. His knee injury later in the game could have very easily been avoided if he didn't think so highly of his dangling skills. Go through the hit, not around it you fuc*ing *****
The puck may have been pretty far away but regardless, I've seen some guys get away with late hits, even if that guy gets injured. First one that comes to mind is Gonchar last year, Koci got nothing. It was a gray area hit.

I'm not definding Colin Campbell, he is a dumbass, his suspensions make very little sense or in some cases him not suspending people confuses me. But what do you honestly expect from the NHL? Not exactly some set rulebook they use or anything...
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Old 01-30-2010, 03:52 PM
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Green should have gotten 10. But someone needs to explain to me how this got a suspension and Richards hit on Booth didn't.
Richards used his shoulder, Green used his elbow. Pretty simple

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where was the puck when he made that "legal hit"? mike richards wont get suspended b/c he's captain canada, almost untouchable if you will, he plays more on the edge of legal/illegal then almost anyone in this league. The day he gets suspended for something is the day i will retract my words on him

as far as the hit goes, it was awful, he led with his elbow caught frolik right on the chin, punishment fits the crime. His knee injury later in the game could have very easily been avoided if he didn't think so highly of his dangling skills. Go through the hit, not around it you fuc*ing *****
The Richards hit happened with in the standard 20 frames after Booth dished the puck. Your Captain Canada argument holds zero weight.
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:30 PM
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"No, I didn't at all," Green said. "I've thrown that body check where you kind of come across - I didn't come across too aggressive. I'll let Bruce talk about the rest."
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"I don't know how to react anymore," he said. "Obviously I'm very upset about it. But what can you do? It's like fighting a ticket [when] you know you're not doing something wrong, from the police. You can't argue with them. I better not say nothing. I'm just livid about whole thing anyway."

Asked again, Boudreau shot back: "I'm using 'livid' right now, and I'm not going any further with it. Don't try to put something in my mouth where I end up saying something stupid. So let's talk about something else, okay."
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"Obviously we don't want to lose Greenie," he said. "I don't know if he was going to play anyway after that knee on knee collision. But at some point you have to take control of the game and protect the players. You see what happened in junior hockey [the Patrice Cormier incident]. At some point you have to make a statement where there's not a gray area. You can't hit to the head. It's black or white. You hit to the head you're going to get suspended
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"I didn't see the replay. I was on the ice. But out of the corner of my eye it looked like an elbow. The guy wasn't hurt, right? He finished the game. He got him in the head. [The league] is trying to send a message, especially in the wake of that Quebec league thing. It's protecting the players. I'm sorry it happened to Mike. But guys know, an elbow to someone's head is going to cost you one way or another."
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Old 01-30-2010, 04:57 PM
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Bruce Boudreau gets dumber and dumber as the days go by. What a friggin tool. If that happened to a Capital, the same exact elbowing situation, I bet that fat ass Michelin man would be calling for the death penalty.

And Green thinking it wasn't a penalty...good thing he's got hockey going for him, because he's not too bright.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:04 PM
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Fact: If that was Malkin or OV throwing that hit, Frolik would have gotten an interference penalty.
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Old 01-30-2010, 05:30 PM
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Well, its not like Mike Green is chopped liver, or a 7th d-man.

For a star player with no history of suspensions, I'm surprised he got 3 games. But it was a blatant elbow, and its fortunates Frolik was injured more severly on the play. The league appears to be sending a better message here regarding head shots and holding players responsible.

Still - I wonder if Green hadn't been hurt, would he still have gotten the suspension? If he was going to be out 1 or 2 weeks anyways, what the harm in giving him a 3 game suspension? Could be viewed as quite a conveniant coincidence.
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Old 01-30-2010, 07:56 PM
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Fact: If that was Malkin or OV throwing that hit, Frolik would have gotten an interference penalty.
honestly I think anyone gets at least one game for that hit.
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Old 01-30-2010, 09:47 PM
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honestly I think anyone gets at least one game for that hit.
But not this one...

YouTube- gonchar hits clutterbuck

What a freakin joke.
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Old 01-30-2010, 10:17 PM
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you wasted your first post on that, really?

Its two completely different plays. Gonchar anticipated Clutterbuck would get to the puck. How was he suppose to know that tank would actually make a competent play along the boards? Was Gonchar's hit retribution? yes, however it would have been a legal hit with his elbow tucked. Green's elbow was clearly extended and he clearly intended to go outside of the rules.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:00 PM
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That looked like a pretty blatant elbow to the head to me. Regardless of whether Green was trying to hit him with Frolik with his shoulder initially, his elbow is clearly out and it looked like a direct hit. In the wake of the whole Patrice Cormier mess, the league was obviously going to issue a suspension for this hit, even to a star player like Green.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:16 PM
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Was Gonchar's hit retribution? yes, however it would have been a legal hit with his elbow tucked.

WOW! That is some jacked up logic, even for a pens fan.
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Old 01-30-2010, 11:39 PM
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WOW! That is some jacked up logic, even for a pens fan.
You're off to a great start.

The Gonchar hit is irrelevant. Its common knowledge that the NHL is absolutely awful with suspensions, but in this case, they got it right. Green led with his elbow and laid a deliberate cheapshot to Frolik.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:02 AM
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you wasted your first post on that, really?

Its two completely different plays. Gonchar anticipated Clutterbuck would get to the puck. How was he suppose to know that tank would actually make a competent play along the boards? Was Gonchar's hit retribution? yes, however it would have been a legal hit with his elbow tucked. Green's elbow was clearly extended and he clearly intended to go outside of the rules.
Not to mention Gonchar lost half of the season, if not close to 3/4 of the season because of a late hit by koci. Obviously Clutterbuck was trying to make a hit but it was late. Gonchar didn't like it and finished it off. Not to mention you shouldn't be upset a Euro hit somebody.

Completley diffrent situations.
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Old 01-31-2010, 12:18 AM
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Boudreau looks like even more of a tool when even one of his own players (Knuble) describes the hit as an "elbow to the head." If that had happened in the Q it would have been another season-long suspension.
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