Canucks and Mason Raymond Going to Arbitration

[chilly666]

The details of his contract just may not be the same.

For the first time in team history the Canucks have activated a mechanism that exists in the collective bargaining agreement where, in lieu of tendering a qualifying offer to Raymond, the team will invoke salary arbitration to have his salary adjusted.

Laurence Gilman, Canucks VP of hockey operations & assistant general manager, said Wednesday that due to Raymond’s dip in production over the last few seasons, the club will rework his contract.

The arbitration process, which will take place in Toronto between July 20 and August 4, is no different than a player filing for salary arbitration, as Raymond did in 2010.

It’s all part of the business, said Gilman.

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The Vancouver Canucks filed 'cutdown' arbitration with forward Mason Raymond on Wednesday, instead of making a qualifying offer.

Last season, Raymond made $2.6 million and the arbitrator may not award a salary less than 85% of that amount or $2.21 million.

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[straka91]

Im getting the impression Gillis is a dick to his players. For a measly 400k come on. If you he really wants to save cap space, he can loan the sisters to Europe and save 10 million on the cap. They will never get a cup with them on the roster.

[chilly666]

in this case i think its vancouver giving raymond a more team friendly contract considering he got a raise two years ago and hasn't scored as many points in the last two years as he did 3 years ago is a fair "request".

i don't think it's too far-fetched for most teams to do, it's just most are afraid to stick their necks out like this and pull the trigger for fear of a bad rep.

[OilersHockey]

He's going to piss off the entire NHLPA for $400k? Are you fuc*ing kidding me?

Great message to send to the players as an organization...

Cost benefit guys... do the analysis.

[HordiBrusk29]

Originally Posted by straka91

Im getting the impression Gillis is a dick to his players.

Gillis is a dick period. Either way I don't blame him or the Canucks for not wanting to pay Raymond.

[chilly666]

Originally Posted by OilersHockey

He's going to piss off the entire NHLPA for $400k? Are you fuc*ing kidding me?

Great message to send to the players as an organization...

Cost benefit guys... do the analysis.

why should raymond get a 10% raise for a QO for his play over the two last seasons? he had less points into the past two seasons than he did in the prior season that got him the contract with a decent raise, then sucked.

good for gillis to say to the player, we don't think you gave us what we paid for, but you're still gonna get a contract from us again.

[OilersHockey]

Originally Posted by chilly666

why should raymond get a 10% raise for a QO for his play over the two last seasons? he had less points into the past two seasons than he did in the prior season that got him the contract with a decent raise, then sucked.

good for gillis to say to the player, we don't think you gave us what we paid for, but you're still gonna get a contract from us again.

I absolutely disagree, and so do 99.9% of the GMs in the league, which is why this is so rarely used...

So much to lose in reputation as an organization and so little to gain in the overall picture...

I understand your point and I do see where you are coming from... I just don`t think the risk/reward analysis says this is a good idea.

[chilly666]

well that's fair...but its well known that gillis doesn't give two ****s what people think of him, also the fact that doing this can either open up the whole salary if raymond (has the ability too) walks away from the arbitrators ruling or at least save in upwards of 600k which could bring in another roster player or give them cap space to make a trade at the deadline.

i get what you're saying, but logically knowing what gillis is about and who he has been in the media since joining the canucks, this move isn't really shocking imo.

[OilersHockey]

Originally Posted by chilly666

well that's fair...but its well known that gillis doesn't give two ****s what people think of him, also the fact that doing this can either open up the whole salary if raymond (has the ability too) walks away from the arbitrators ruling or at least save in upwards of 600k which could bring in another roster player or give them cap space to make a trade at the deadline.

i get what you're saying, but logically knowing what gillis is about and who he has been in the media since joining the canucks, this move isn't really shocking imo.

I hear ya... I do applaud him for being willing to use this avenue...

I wish WAY more GMs would run this like a business instead of making a mockery of the business side of the game - things like Dipietro's contract, etc make the game a laughing stock at times.