Canucks' Jannik Hansen Suspended One Game for Roughing

[GassiusClay]

Originally Posted by Orig6

If he wasn't such a hack in his day, then he would be regarded as one of the games greatest players. But he's not, despite what your hockey-ignorant, pea brain might want to believe. He was well-known for picking his scraps when someone was at the end of a shift and also for going after non-fighters. He let the Shane Churla's and Joe Kocur's of the game do his real fighting with those role players. I recall several Hawks games when he would hide behind teammates or linesman so he wouldn't have to dance w/ Dirk Graham. Shanny would fit in well with this group of punks wearing the ugliest uniforms in all of hockey that you are in the fan base of.

What in the world are you talking about?

To assert that Shanahan would be afraid of Dirk Graham is the most assinine comment I've come across on this site (which contains many assinine comments).
Dirk was a good fighter. Shanahan was better, but for the sake of arguement, lets say they were equals.
But for you to think Graham was so much better that Shanahan was afraid of him is absolute lunacy.

This is a well past his prime, on the way out of the league 38 yr old Brendan Shanahan taking on the guy many claimed was the league champion at the time:

Shanahan vs Brashear - YouTube

Note how he willingly takes on the disputed champ, and sheds his lid before the fight.

You may not like Shanahan because of the way he does or doesn't dish out suspensions, but you are being a ridiculous homer if that is enough to make you think his entire career as a player is cancelled out because he didn't suspend someone who dared to take a cheapshot at one of your players.

For the record, Shanahan had 130 career NHL fights.
His resume includes, Berube, Tochett, Plett, Vukota, Ewen, McSorely, Probert, and Brashear as very legit HW's, and an array of light heavies (the group to which he belonged).
By the way, that is about 80 more fights than Dirk Graham had in the NHL.

The way Hossa flopped around on the ice like he was a dead soccer player, I would have expected a lifetime ban for Hansen as well.

Maybe Shanahan took into consideration the fact Hossa was in fact uninjured, and has a propensity to embellish from time to time???

[thruby]

Originally Posted by GassiusClay

The way Hossa flopped around on the ice like he was a dead soccer player, I would have expected a lifetime ban for Hansen as well.

Maybe Shanahan took into consideration the fact Hossa was in fact uninjured, and has a propensity to embellish from time to time???

Hahahaha. What?

[majew17]

Originally Posted by Dave Brown HOF

As a Canucks fan, I'm not impressed or like some of the things that some of the players on this team have done in the past. But, to group all Canucks fans together as being whiners, while somehow bringing down the integrity of the game, would be equal to me accusing all Blackhawks fans as being as big of an uneducated moron as what you are for some of your ridiculously stupid comments. Because I've seen some Hawks fans on here who make some consistently good posts and don't have their judgement clouded by.....a lack of brain cells that you seem to have been cursed with. But, I won't hold it against them because they have an idiot in their midst.....every village has one.

I don't like seeing anyone get hurt and in my personal opinion, I thought that Hansen was at the very least pretty reckless. However, that little girl Hossa skates off the ice looking like he'll never be able to feed himself again and then somehow miraculously is back the next day showing no ill effects of the hit at all and plays the very next game. This coming from a guy who has a history of concussion issues. If he was hurt as bad as what he seemed and what everyone thought, then I have a hard time believing that he wasn't embellishing the hit.

Although I don't agree with some of Shanahans rulings, he has the inevitable job of never being able to please everyone. But, did you ever see him play, or are you 14 years old and have only heard about him? Because if you'd ever seen him play, then you would know that he was one of the best power forwards of his era, and probably one of the best of any era. He was never known as a cheap or dirty player. He fought a lot of tough guys, even when he didn't really have to because he was such a good and valauble player to his teams. He did it because that was how he played, tough, hard, powerful and fair... with skill. A hundred NHL fights, almost 2500 PIM's and over 650 goals would I think attest to that. But maybe you're upset that he scored too many goals and won too many fights against your beloved Hawks over the years when he was with the Blues and Wings but your comments about him as a player make you look like a bigger idiot than what you already did.....and this was hard to do.

Because you're 14, you obviously don't remember that your Hawks were one of the laughing stocks of the league for the better part of 10 years not that long ago. Yes, over the last 6 years or so, they're drafting has paid off, which will eventually happen when you end up around the bottom of the standings like they did for a decade. But, please don't act like your organization is so great, because they were down just like many other organizations have been(missing the playoffs 9 out of 10 years) and you're just lucky enough to be jumping on the bandwagon when they're at the top of the wave. They went almost 50 years without winning a cup for christ sakes, so let's not act like they're the Canadiens of the 50's, 60's and 70's.

Thank You and dont lump me in with this guy,I disagreed with most of his post

[Dave Brown HOF]

Originally Posted by Orig6

This has been interesting, but I've got to sign off now. It is clear that you have been polishing up your "I know you are, but what am I?" style of response and that becomes quickly boring to anyone who can form a coherent argument in a sound debate. You were correct on one thing though. I got my 1990's goons crossed up when I mentioned "the Shane Churla's...". I meant Basil McRae, but I'll let you relish in that one. You are so well-informed, like all Canuck's, right. I mean, it's part of your culture, right? It's how you were all brought up, right? For the record, I have nothing against Canada, just people from Vancouver like you.

I would like to point out that the one with more time on his hands pounding the computer key board and probably his own pud is the one on HF.com at 1:30 AM on a Saturday.

I'd love to debate this all with you further, but you just aren't a challenge. Debating you is akin to picking on crippled kids. It's no fun and just not right. So enjoy the last word which I am sure you will enjoy in this space. I'm done with this thread, I made my point and you only helped with your homophobic, angry and ignorant responses.

Sign off now? I don't think that I speak for myself when I say, I hope that you mean that you're talking about signing off this site for good.

Keep painting that brush moron. Now is it all people in Vancouver that you were talking about or is it still all Canadians, as mentioned by your Canucks comment? As you probably don't know, Canucks is a term used for all Canadians, similar to what Yankees is to Americans.

Anyways, you've now screwed up the Churla/McRae thing, you've admitted that the Hawks aren't quite the stellar organization that you first said that they were, despite first stating the contrary, you've called Shanahan a cheap and dirty hockey player when other posters besides myself have proven otherwise and saying that he was afraid of Dirk Graham, when he's actually fought guys who would have kiiled Dirk Graham, you've tried to lump Hossa and grit together, and you've painted all Canadians/Vancouverites with the same brush......so, with all of those inaccuracies and contradictions, I can see how you'd want to beg out of this thread, because you're embarrassing yourself. So, because of that, that might have been the smartest thing that you've said.

You're an embarrassment to all hockey fight fans with all of your uneducated and inaccurate statements and I hope that none of us have to be subjected to your bull**** drivel on here again.

And I never said anything homophobic, because what you and your life partner do in the privacy of your own life is your business, so drop the soap as much as you want homey!

[Dave Brown HOF]

Originally Posted by GassiusClay

What in the world are you talking about?

To assert that Shanahan would be afraid of Dirk Graham is the most assinine comment I've come across on this site (which contains many assinine comments).
Dirk was a good fighter. Shanahan was better, but for the sake of arguement, lets say they were equals.
But for you to think Graham was so much better that Shanahan was afraid of him is absolute lunacy.

This is a well past his prime, on the way out of the league 38 yr old Brendan Shanahan taking on the guy many claimed was the league champion at the time:

Shanahan vs Brashear - YouTube

Note how he willingly takes on the disputed champ, and sheds his lid before the fight.

You may not like Shanahan because of the way he does or doesn't dish out suspensions, but you are being a ridiculous homer if that is enough to make you think his entire career as a player is cancelled out because he didn't suspend someone who dared to take a cheapshot at one of your players.

For the record, Shanahan had 130 career NHL fights.
His resume includes, Berube, Tochett, Plett, Vukota, Ewen, McSorely, Probert, and Brashear as very legit HW's, and an array of light heavies (the group to which he belonged).
By the way, that is about 80 more fights than Dirk Graham had in the NHL.

The way Hossa flopped around on the ice like he was a dead soccer player, I would have expected a lifetime ban for Hansen as well.

Maybe Shanahan took into consideration the fact Hossa was in fact uninjured, and has a propensity to embellish from time to time???

This was one of the first fights that I thought about when that idiot Orig6 made his stupid comments. I remember Shanahan saying after that fight that he knew that Brashear was in a different league as far as fighting goes, especially at Shanahans age, but that he had to fight him based on what was going on in the game. He also said that he had nothing but respect for guys like Brashear because what they do and how they do it, at that level(heavyweight fighters) was on a different level than the regular guys......but I'm sure that's why he was too scared to fight that illustrious killer DirK Graham......enter sarcasm Orig6, since I know that you're too stupid to pick up on it.

[Dave Brown HOF]

Originally Posted by majew17

Thank You and dont lump me in with this guy,I disagreed with most of his post

Lol. I won't dude because like I mentioned there are some excellent posters that support the Hawks on here, you included, and I'm not as ignorant as Orig6 to lump everyone together.