Bruins' Shawn Thornton Out 7-10 Days with Concussion

[nyrpack]

i think its going to be more then 7-10 days, these days teams arent fooling around with concussions and with the hoopla of fighters taken punishment thorts has to be concerned about what he does for a living !!

[Oil Can Henry]

Originally Posted by srehm1

Thornton was offered up as the sacrificial lamb?? Ever see Chara try to fight lately? Thornton is our enforcer. He's taken on some big mofos in the past. He did his job. end of story.

I'd love to see "any captain" step up against Scott. they would get trounced. then you'd be in here complaining about how it's the enforcer's job, not the captains. most captains in this league wouldn't bat an eye lash at scott.

...but, Chara's not just "any" captain -- he's a 6' - 9" Redwood! I'll say it once more -- it's his "duty" and he failed -- end of story!

[srehm1]

Originally Posted by Oil Can Henry

...but, Chara's not just "any" captain -- he's a 6' - 9" Redwood! I'll say it once more -- it's his "duty" and he failed -- end of story!

you said "ANY captain" should step up. I will repeat: "ANY captain" would get smoked and most likely put on the IR by Scott. This is why we have enfrocers. If Chara wants to fight him then fine, but I'm not expecting him to when the team has a designated enforcer to handle that.

[Maggie3and Me]

Originally Posted by Oil Can Henry

...but, Chara's not just "any" captain -- he's a 6' - 9" Redwood! I'll say it once more -- it's his "duty" and he failed -- end of story!

Just curious about your comments here.

Is it his "duty" because he is 6'9", or because he is the captain?

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by V12_Bi-Turbo

Teenage and naive post based on not knowing whats regulary going on HF.com

The ´´1st to get KO´d this year´´ is a traditional thread which is being created before each season starts. Lot of other posters made it in the past, its was not my idea.

The purpose of the thread is to GUESS who will be KO´d first, not to look forward to it like little kids.

Please be aware of HF.com regular threads before you make yourself being dumb.

Yeah, everyone that doesn't think like you is a teenager you simpleton. I know the thread is made annually just like I know you are a hypocrite. You call out someone for saying something that is true while you give your fake worries and all this after you make a thread about who is going to get KO'd this year. That is not teenage stuff, to sit around and guess who will be the first fighter to be knocked unconscious? But hey, after the KO you could express how worried you are about their health hypocrite.

Of course I hope Thornton is ok just like NameyMD does. Some of the posts in this thread should be made for soldiers fighting wars for us though, not a fighter that got TKO'd in a fight everyone of us wanted to see.

[Peters_4_Prez]

Originally Posted by Oil Can Henry

...what I'm saying is -- as team LEADER and CAPTAIN it's his DUTY to take-on Scott. As home-team, the Bruins had the last move on the face-off, yet Thornton was offered-up as "sacrificial lamb" in this mis-match!
The game was decided in the first two minutes as a result of this fight -- single-handedly beaten by a player who CAN'T shoot,...CAN'T score,...CAN'T pass,...CAN'T skate. Chara's "minutes-played" meant ABSOLUTELY nothing if they aren't productive --- THIS was the opportunity for ANY captain to "step-up."

Sacrificial lamb? They met at center ice during warmups and most likely talked about scrapping during the game. I think Thornton wanted this one based on the history between the two.

[spiderarms]

Its regretable in the age of concussions that a stand-up guy like Shawn Thornton gets hurt and is now out of the lineup for the unforseeable future.

EVERY hockey fight fan should be feeling bad about this as it effects EVERYONE who enjoys a good hockey fight! There is one less fighter too watch for us all!

It is very sad when we hear NEGATIVE comments as this kind of thing can happen to ANYONE, including your favorite fighter.

As we all can see, rankings and status of fighters are as finkle as many of its fans. Loyalty and respect should never go away just because of one fight!

Shawn Thornton is one of the better fighters and enforcers in the game today. His fight with John Scott was a straight up, one on one battle and their is NO bad guy in this scenario.

Thornton did his job, as he always does and John Scott, to his credit after being UNFAIRLY ridiculed in the Orr posts, did as well. John Scott was brought in to do a job and he did it! This was a FAIR fight and Scott won.

If you want to poke criticism in this scenario, it shouldn't be on Charo or Lucic. They both have a ton of respect for Thornton and what he does on this team and IMO, realize that this battle happened for a couple of reasons:

1) It would be disrespectful for them to DO Thornton's Job and to Thornton's
credit, he addressed it immediately to keep it just between the two of
them.

2) This was a fight that occured from an existing unsettled dispute
between Scott and Thornton (Chicago and Boston).

3) Thornton has shown over and over that he can handle any battle, with a
guy bigger than him or not (Derek Boogard). And by the way, size is
not a guarantee in any battle as John Scott found out a week ago vs
Colton Orr (Roughly similar size as Thornton)

4) To say that Chara would have faired better, think again. Yes he's 6"9
but this is NOT his job on the team and remember his AGE, he is no kid.
If Chara is out injured, this is a much bigger deal.

5) Both Chara and Lucic are far to valuable to the Bruins and winning to be
the designated avengers. That is why Lane MacDermid was brought up!

6) If anyone wants to critique the Bruins on this situation they can for a
couple of reasons:

A) The unanswered hit (Elbow) on Dougie Hamilton by John Scott.

B) With 14 seconds left in the game, Lane MacDermid was on the ice with
John Scott, the game is over by all intensive purposes, why was there no
retribution then? Would it matter if MacDermid was suspended, NO.

IMO, it was Lane MacDermid's job to do that unless he was instructed not to do so by the Bruins coach, Claude Julien.

How do I think MacDermid would have done? It doesn't matter because a MESSAGE would have been sent back to Ruff!

[ThrowdownSJ408]

Originally Posted by Oil Can Henry

...what I'm saying is -- as team LEADER and CAPTAIN it's his DUTY to take-on Scott. As home-team, the Bruins had the last move on the face-off, yet Thornton was offered-up as "sacrificial lamb" in this mis-match!
The game was decided in the first two minutes as a result of this fight -- single-handedly beaten by a player who CAN'T shoot,...CAN'T score,...CAN'T pass,...CAN'T skate. Chara's "minutes-played" meant ABSOLUTELY nothing if they aren't productive --- THIS was the opportunity for ANY captain to "step-up."

Actually with this post and your previous post you are quite wrong. Because Thornton playing the role as the tough guy it gives Chara and other guys the ability to focus on winning and not having to fight a guy like this. Thornton knows its his job and he loves it. YOu could ask all the Bruins and the managment whose job is it to fight Scott, they would say Thornton unless he wasnt in the game or on the ice. Thornton might be small and you are only saying this because he fought a Giant. If he were to go fight Mcgrattan and get his ass kicked would you say it also? Or Carkner? Its his job and will till he retires. What if Chara hurt his shoulder or broke his hand fighting a good like scott? Chara will fight but only if something really got him going. Hes a super star. Thornton will be fine, its not even like thornton got jumped im sure he is the one who wanted to fight him, he pressed for the fight and grabbed scott first. thornton will come back tough and fine everyone loses and takes time off after receiving a blow in their career.

[bruins64]

Originally Posted by spiderarms

Its regretable in the age of concussions that a stand-up guy like Shawn Thornton gets hurt and is now out of the lineup for the unforseeable future.

EVERY hockey fight fan should be feeling bad about this as it effects EVERYONE who enjoys a good hockey fight! There is one less fighter too watch for us all!

It is very sad when we hear NEGATIVE comments as this kind of thing can happen to ANYONE, including your favorite fighter.

As we all can see, rankings and status of fighters are as finkle as many of its fans. Loyalty and respect should never go away just because of one fight!

Shawn Thornton is one of the better fighters and enforcers in the game today. His fight with John Scott was a straight up, one on one battle and their is NO bad guy in this scenario.

Thornton did his job, as he always does and John Scott, to his credit after being UNFAIRLY ridiculed in the Orr posts, did as well. John Scott was brought in to do a job and he did it! This was a FAIR fight and Scott won.

If you want to poke criticism in this scenario, it shouldn't be on Charo or Lucic. They both have a ton of respect for Thornton and what he does on this team and IMO, realize that this battle happened for a couple of reasons:

1) It would be disrespectful for them to DO Thornton's Job and to Thornton's
credit, he addressed it immediately to keep it just between the two of
them.

2) This was a fight that occured from an existing unsettled dispute
between Scott and Thornton (Chicago and Boston).

3) Thornton has shown over and over that he can handle any battle, with a
guy bigger than him or not (Derek Boogard). And by the way, size is
not a guarantee in any battle as John Scott found out a week ago vs
Colton Orr (Roughly similar size as Thornton)

4) To say that Chara would have faired better, think again. Yes he's 6"9
but this is NOT his job on the team and remember his AGE, he is no kid.
If Chara is out injured, this is a much bigger deal.

5) Both Chara and Lucic are far to valuable to the Bruins and winning to be
the designated avengers. That is why Lane MacDermid was brought up!

6) If anyone wants to critique the Bruins on this situation they can for a
couple of reasons:

A) The unanswered hit (Elbow) on Dougie Hamilton by John Scott.

B) With 14 seconds left in the game, Lane MacDermid was on the ice with
John Scott, the game is over by all intensive purposes, why was there no
retribution then? Would it matter if MacDermid was suspended, NO.

IMO, it was Lane MacDermid's job to do that unless he was instructed not to do so by the Bruins coach, Claude Julien.

How do I think MacDermid would have done? It doesn't matter because a MESSAGE would have been sent back to Ruff!

Excellent post. I thought it was classless of Ruff to call the time-out but what else can you expect. Lucic and Chara are not going to do the team any good getting hurt in a fight one way or the other..LOL Chara isnt that good of a fighter to begin with.
The big difference between Thornton and Scott is Scott is just a goon his hockey skills are pathetic. Thornton on the 4th line creates turn overs with tenacious checking and can actually carry the puck and pass it and shoot. Although you have to respect Scott as a fighter thats where it ends. He's nothing but a good old fashioned goon.
I hate to see the game end up like this... mondo play hockey mondo fight.. The game has evolved beyond that I would think. Its not hard to find a behemouth and put skates on him. Buffaload needed some back bone but they arent going far with one scoring line and a goon. The next game with Boston will be very interesting.

[Oil Can Henry]

....then, what exactly is Chara's role as Captain --- to collect all the money for next year's Christmas party??

[Em36]

Originally Posted by Treehugger

Yeah I agree, He's got nothing to prove.

There's also two other guys in the lineup who are much more Scott's size.

[chilly666]

Thornton is symptom free and is feeling well... Skated earlier this morning and biked as well.

Link

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by Oil Can Henry

....then, what exactly is Chara's role as Captain --- to collect all the money for next year's Christmas party??

You have a lot to learn about hockey.

A captain steps up to fight once in a while and usually something spontaneous, response to a hit, whatever. I've never seen a captain fight an enforcer because that enforcer TKO'd his enforcer, I can't think of any, anyway.

Thinking its Chara's job to fight someone like John Scott is pretty absurd, they have no history. The only reason he would do it is because Scott runs him or the goalie or Seguin, something like that and even then, I think he would pause.

Chara or Lucic fighting Scott is fairly ridiculous, it's a huge win for the Sabres if either of them fight Scott and even bigger if one of them gets hurt doing it, as you can see, Thornton got his bell rung, the other players saw that and sh1t their pants, they don't want that to happen to themselves and it easily could, a motivated Scott is a very formidable opponent, I wouldn't blame anyone for avoiding him except for another enforcer.

[Canadiens100]

Shawn Thornton must've got his concussion when he slipped on the ice as many of you Boston fans had said in reviewing the fight, that he wasn't TKO'd, he slipped, Well here is the proof that he WAS TKO'd!
Shawn Thornton was mouthing off to Scott during the warmup, now everyone feels bad that he got hurt, well he asked for it.
I hope he recovers soon.

[Chiefs for Life]

Hope he is ready to go on Wednesday night, I really would like to see how the Habs shape up against Boston, Boston is the best team in the conference now, and if you want to benchmark were your team is, you want a healthy Boston squad to do it.. Even Boston fans have to say that Montreal took the right steps forward this year in toughness, Yes Boston's top three in Thornton, Lucic and Chara are truely untouchable when it comes to fighting, but Montreal has three willing guys in Moen, White and Prust, plus a little Francis Boullion is never shy to mix it up if needed... Again hopefully Thornton is good to go Wednesday and we get to see where the Habs really are...