Avalanche Re-Sign Ryan Wilson, Patrick Bordeleau and David van der Gulik

[chilly666]

but while in the ahl with norfolk thornton proved he could do more than just fight. thornton played the pp and pk in the minors.

also comparing thornton to bordeleau is a bit foolish as now-a-days teams are not just gonna give anyone a chance to play in the nhl. thornton earned his right with many years of playing the game in the ahl at a decent enough level that a team was willing to give him a chance.

if bordeleau was any good, the avalanche would give him a chance.

the game has changed to where a fighter has to be able to play a semi-regular shift. which is why the organizational excuse goes out the window. tampa bay was in a playoff run last year and called up both guys and they don't like fighting. which means that even teams that don't like fighting will call up guys who fight because they can actually play the game along with fighting.

if the avalanche hates fighters, why does cody mcleod have a job with them? oh that's right, because he can play the game at a decent enough level. if bordeleau could, he would have a chance to get called up.

godard would not have a place as he is washed up and useless. him being bought out proved that.

henry wasn't a true enforcer like you're making him out to be. he fought if need be. he could actually play the game, just was signed by teams to be a mentor in the minors, which he relished as a player.

[fcm]

If McLeod has a spot for Colorado it's because he can be somewhat valuable in something else than fighting. Bordeleau isn't, just like Kassian, Janssen, Hordichuk, and many more, including Bollig.

That's it. If the Avalanche believed enforcing was useful, they would actually play an enforcer like Patrick Bordeleau.

[chilly666]

you just made my point for me that i've been saying all along...if bordeleau as a prospect could play a decent enough game, he'd be up like mcleod.

bollig can play the game which i stated 2 pages ago which is why he got a call to play in the nhl.


that being said as to how in the hell janssen has a job, is beyond me.

[fcm]

Bollig would be buried in the AHL if the Hawks didn't believe in carrying something looking like an enforcer.

[chilly666]

no he wouldn't

[36Henry]

Reading this thread is like watching Brashear fight

[Oilfield316]

Great for the Ave's to resign these guys, but I'm a little concerned why they're young gun in Ryan O'Reilly is still awaiting a contract thus far into the summer...

[chilly666]

he's apart of the newport sports agency headed by don meehan...that's the reason mainly.

[Stevens Lindros]

Originally Posted by fcm

The actual Avalanches organisation doesn't believe in the enforcing thing, at the opposite of your Blackhawks. They carried David Koci for bringing some fans to the arena while they were 14th in the west but now that they are competitive enough to fight for a playoff spot, they don't want an enforcer anymore.

As an enforcer, Patrick Bordeleau is just as good of a hockey player than any of the Cam Janssens of this world. If Bordeleau was playing for an organisation that believes in enforcing, he would get a spot on the big team on the 4th line... that's it.

Just one correction, the Avs finished with a freak-of-nature performance and landed in the 8th seed that year and re-signed him to another 1-way contract. As a playoff team they re-signed him is my point. Pretty sure Sacco loved having the big guy around or he'd have been gone after the first year. I'll admit he wasn't the best fighter in the world, and had a very limited skill set, but he was a really entertaining fighter and looked extremely intimidating at 6'6 238. He's an example of one of those guys who worked their way up from the AHL to stay briefly in the NHL. Not a lot of enforcers did it any better than Koci once he learned he wouldn't make it as a defenceman.

I agree with fcm though, Bordeleau's situation is a product of the organization he's in, that said however, coach Sacco and GM Greg Sherman are very unpredictable and there are certainly worse teams to try to crack the NHL with.

[Gunslinger]

Originally Posted by blades29

If the Avs are gonna resign the guy, at least call him up and use him! For **** sakes, that's what he's there for! McLeod can't do it all himself!

I love the resign, but use him. **** that pisses me off.

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. Save Downie for the agitating and use Bordeleau for the heavy lifting. Wishful thinking on our part though I'm afraid.