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Old 12-16-2011, 03:38 PM
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...it was bad attempt by McQuaid at trying to stop Foligno from getting past him -- it was a trip, yes,...you can call it a knee, too, if you want -- BUT, THAT'S IT. A DELIBERATE attempt at injury?? - NO WAY.
The NHL along with "hanging-judge" Brendan Shanahan CONTINUE to punish players UNJUSTLY in their shameless effort at "cleaning-up" the league.

WHY they think it's necessary to tack-on a fine and suspension for every freakin' penalty is a joke,...it's becoming outrageous! This is NOT hockey, anymore - they are changing the sport completely - and the fans are the ones being SCAMMED,........
McQuaid wasn't trying to injure, but it's a stupid, dangerous, illegal, indefensible play.
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Old 12-16-2011, 03:46 PM
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McQuaid wasn't trying to injure, but it's a stupid, dangerous, illegal, indefensible play.
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Old 12-16-2011, 04:14 PM
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...it was bad attempt by McQuaid at trying to stop Foligno from getting past him -- it was a trip, yes,...you can call it a knee, too, if you want -- BUT, THAT'S IT. A DELIBERATE attempt at injury?? - NO WAY.
The NHL along with "hanging-judge" Brendan Shanahan CONTINUE to punish players UNJUSTLY in their shameless effort at "cleaning-up" the league.

WHY they think it's necessary to tack-on a fine and suspension for every freakin' penalty is a joke,...it's becoming outrageous! This is NOT hockey, anymore - they are changing the sport completely - and the fans are the ones being SCAMMED,........
Knee-on-knee (shin, thigh, w/e) hits can be career-enders, dude. Have you forgotten that David Booth is out for 4-6 weeks because of a knee-on-knee hit? Players have been fined/suspended for these hits long before Shanaban took over, so I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:39 PM
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he seems like a guy that would rather hurt himself than someone else

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His missed hit on Richards in the playoffs at least says a lot to the classy Philly fans that all applauded Quaider as he skated dazed off the the ice...on the other hand in Boston, also in the playoffs, how about that totally unpunished hit by Boychuk on Raymond and talk about blatantly obvious intent to injure, Oh, i know some blind Bruin fans will say that he fell awkwardly, but if you look at the reply Boychuk had his stick between his legs, spun him around, kept him bent over and drove him into the boards, not once but twice, hard enough to break a vertebrae. It takes a lot of force to break a vertebrae by compression, so this wasn't just an "accident".
And then the depraved Bruin fans booed and jeered Raymond as he skated in total agony off the ice... gee, and i wonder why there are so many bruin haters?
The good news is...last week Mason Raymond had his first shift of the season!
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:52 PM
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His missed hit on Richards in the playoffs at least says a lot to the classy Philly fans that all applauded Quaider as he skated dazed off the the ice...on the other hand in Boston, also in the playoffs, how about that totally unpunished hit by Boychuk on Raymond and talk about blatantly obvious intent to injure, Oh, i know some blind Bruin fans will say that he fell awkwardly, but if you look at the reply Boychuk had his stick between his legs, spun him around, kept him bent over and drove him into the boards, not once but twice, hard enough to break a vertebrae. It takes a lot of force to break a vertebrae by compression, so this wasn't just an "accident".
And then the depraved Bruin fans booed and jeered Raymond as he skated in total agony off the ice... gee, and i wonder why there are so many bruin haters?
The good news is...last week Mason Raymond had his first shift of the season!
Pal Custombrakes,wtf are you talking about?????? No hockey fan wants to see another player badly injured to where he never plays again. Your still stuck on last June,my friend. Great to see Raymonds making his way back,and i do mean that.
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Old 12-16-2011, 05:58 PM
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His missed hit on Richards in the playoffs at least says a lot to the classy Philly fans that all applauded Quaider as he skated dazed off the the ice...on the other hand in Boston, also in the playoffs, how about that totally unpunished hit by Boychuk on Raymond and talk about blatantly obvious intent to injure, Oh, i know some blind Bruin fans will say that he fell awkwardly, but if you look at the reply Boychuk had his stick between his legs, spun him around, kept him bent over and drove him into the boards, not once but twice, hard enough to break a vertebrae. It takes a lot of force to break a vertebrae by compression, so this wasn't just an "accident".
And then the depraved Bruin fans booed and jeered Raymond as he skated in total agony off the ice... gee, and i wonder why there are so many bruin haters?
The good news is...last week Mason Raymond had his first shift of the season!
The Bruins fans did not boo Raymond when he skated off the ice. They were cheering "let's go bruins" and it was game 6 of the stanley cup finals. Not to mention all the silly diving the 'nucks were trying made any real injury a little suspicious to anyone watching. That was a freak incident. Saying Boychuk intentionally tried to break his vertebrae is another example of your Bruins hate. It was a hockey play and Raymond got hurt. Finishing your check is apparently intent to injur? I have no problem with someone bashing marchand for his slewfoot or McQuaid's knee on knee-but you're reaching with that boychuk-Raymond incident. Really reaching. You sound like a jilted Canucks fan.
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Old 12-16-2011, 09:30 PM
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Two sets of rules in this joke of a league...surprised he even received a fine.
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:07 PM
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This will be the last post from me on this thread.

When Shanahan (or whoever is dean of discipline at the time) makes a ruling they should be required to JUSTIFY why they are making that ruling. Specifically name examples that played into his ruling based on the players previous record, previous judgements, intent, injury and also examples of other judgements based on the same criteria.

I'm so sick of defending Shanahan and Campbell, so sick of of hearing about refs bias, league officials, and fans bitching about the Bruins.

If they are going to make a ruling they should be required to justify it. Absolutely no need to leave this up to the fans. Its like punching someone at a bar and then letting your friends finish the fight.
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Old 12-16-2011, 10:36 PM
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This will be the last post from me on this thread.

When Shanahan (or whoever is dean of discipline at the time) makes a ruling they should be required to JUSTIFY why they are making that ruling. Specifically name examples that played into his ruling based on the players previous record, previous judgements, intent, injury and also examples of other judgements based on the same criteria.

I'm so sick of defending Shanahan and Campbell, so sick of of hearing about refs bias, league officials, and fans bitching about the Bruins.

If they are going to make a ruling they should be required to justify it. Absolutely no need to leave this up to the fans. Its like punching someone at a bar and then letting your friends finish the fight.
You evidently don't watch Shanaban's videos whenever a suspension or fine is handed out. He attempts to do just that. The problem is that there is no consistency, and other players get away with fouls that others are punished for...which of course is why the conspiracy theories constantly pop up about the Bruins. Take it from someone who understands your frustration over that. There are STILL fans to this day that think the Pens were handed their Cup win in 2009 just so Crosby could get a ring, which is just bullshyt.
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Old 12-17-2011, 08:08 AM
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You evidently don't watch Shanaban's videos whenever a suspension or fine is handed out. He attempts to do just that. The problem is that there is no consistency, and other players get away with fouls that others are punished for...which of course is why the conspiracy theories constantly pop up about the Bruins. Take it from someone who understands your frustration over that. There are STILL fans to this day that think the Pens were handed their Cup win in 2009 just so Crosby could get a ring, which is just bullshyt.
I know I said I wasnt going to post any more on this thread, but I had to.

Actually I do watch Shannys "player saftey" videos on suspensions. I havent seen any where he does it for a fine though. Maybe you can point me in the right direction. He also typically does not relate the suspension of one player to the fine of another player, pointing out the differences which is something that I would like to see.
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Old 12-17-2011, 09:49 AM
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You evidently don't watch Shanaban's videos whenever a suspension or fine is handed out. He attempts to do just that. The problem is that there is no consistency, and other players get away with fouls that others are punished for...which of course is why the conspiracy theories constantly pop up about the Bruins. Take it from someone who understands your frustration over that. There are STILL fans to this day that think the Pens were handed their Cup win in 2009 just so Crosby could get a ring, which is just bullshyt.
...Shanahan's justifications are HIS OWN interpretations -- and more often than not they don't accurately reflect what actually occurred,....
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Old 12-17-2011, 02:08 PM
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I know I said I wasnt going to post any more on this thread, but I had to.

Actually I do watch Shannys "player saftey" videos on suspensions. I havent seen any where he does it for a fine though. Maybe you can point me in the right direction. He also typically does not relate the suspension of one player to the fine of another player, pointing out the differences which is something that I would like to see.
I would love to see that too, but we won't because that would open himself up to even more scrutiny, like, for example, suspending James Wisniewski for 8 games for getting his elbow up into Cal Clutterbuck's face but not even fining Ryan Smyth for the same offense against Chris Kunitz. But if he really cared about transparency, then he wouldn't mind going that extra mile, even if it points out an obvious double-standard.

And I thought he also did videos for fines...guess not.
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Old 12-17-2011, 04:03 PM
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I love McQuaid but I still think he should've gotten 1 or 2 for this one. It was a bad reaction, and it's good that Foligno was able to come back his next shift. You could tell in the post game interview that Quaider felt pretty bad about the hit.
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Old 12-18-2011, 09:31 AM
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:20 PM
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Like most defencemen who get beat, they try to stop at any cost their mistake. Stupid play because the potential to injure is great. Adam usually is a tough clean player, I`am sure this isn`t a trend.
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