NHL Team 2012-2013 A-Z fighter list

[Killah_punk]

Originally Posted by Stevens Lindros

Minimum requirements:
Those with 60 or fewer games played must have 2 or more fights and if a small number, a history of fighting (more than 2 obviously). Greene's problem is he played every game and only had 2. This is not a 'may fight once every 41 games' list.

You can add Joe Vitale and Craig Adams to the Penguins list then.

[Stevens Lindros]

Originally Posted by Killah_punk

You can add Joe Vitale and Craig Adams to the Penguins list then.

Absolutely.

[E.C.]

Originally Posted by brymaster1

What about Haley? In 43 career games he has three points. Contributes dick to any team he's on in terms of production. Clune in 14 games has two points, better PPG pace than Haley and fights more than him. Staubitz has 19 points in 215 games, what skill does he have? Rinaldo has 9 points in 66 games, not very good. Mike Brown, in 50 games had 4 points. Clunes two points in 14 games is a better PPG pace than all of these similar players. Yes I'm sure YOU would take those heavies before Clune, but judging by the way it's gone the last few years, most GM's wouldn't.

It isn't just about putting up points. Guys like Staubitz, Rinaldo, Brown, and Haley can contribute in other ways. Those guys are good in the corners, they play physical, and they are usually the ones willing to put their body on the line for the good of the team. People underestimate how having a solid hitter can change the course of a game for your team. Yes you do want your tough players to score a bit if they aren't a bona fide heavyweight, but you can't just look at the scoresheet to see how a player contributes to his team.

[Stevens Lindros]

Originally Posted by E.C.

It isn't just about putting up points. Guys like Staubitz, Rinaldo, Brown, and Haley can contribute in other ways. Those guys are good in the corners, they play physical, and they are usually the ones willing to put their body on the line for the good of the team. People underestimate how having a solid hitter can change the course of a game for your team. Yes you do want your tough players to score a bit if they aren't a bona fide heavyweight, but you can't just look at the scoresheet to see how a player contributes to his team.

Clearly you've never seen Staubitz play... 1 goal, 0 assists in 62 games says it all. If he hadn't had that EMPTY NET goal he would have set the record for most games played in a season without a single point, which is held by a heavyweight in Ivanans and some random dude from the Pens in 1999 who inexplicably scored every season before and after. http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=5808

I'm not complaining, just tired of people saying how good middleweights are compared to heavies.

[Stevens Lindros]

Unlike FCM though I sincerely hope Clune makes it back, although this is all I recall of him.

Rypien vs Clune ktfo

Rypien was such a great fighter

[fcm]

Originally Posted by brymaster1

What about Haley? In 43 career games he has three points. Contributes dick to any team he's on in terms of production. Clune in 14 games has two points, better PPG pace than Haley and fights more than him. Staubitz has 19 points in 215 games, what skill does he have? Rinaldo has 9 points in 66 games, not very good. Mike Brown, in 50 games had 4 points. Clunes two points in 14 games is a better PPG pace than all of these similar players. Yes I'm sure YOU would take those heavies before Clune, but judging by the way it's gone the last few years, most GM's wouldn't.

Haley and Staubitz are a matchup for heavyweights and do fight heavyweights from time to time. By the way, putting up points isn't the only thing that matters, and I'm pretty sure that Haley, Rinaldo or Brown are better to their team than Clune.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Clune in the NHL but I'd rather see Staubitz or Haley than him.

[brymaster1]

Originally Posted by Stevens Lindros

Unlike FCM though I sincerely hope Clune makes it back, although this is all I recall of him.

Rypien vs Clune ktfo

Rypien was such a great fighter

When Clune fell down in that fight he dislocated his shoulder or some ****. I would have expected the rematch to be similar though, Rypien could really throw em.

[brymaster1]

Originally Posted by fcm

Haley and Staubitz are a matchup for heavyweights and do fight heavyweights from time to time. By the way, putting up points isn't the only thing that matters, and I'm pretty sure that Haley, Rinaldo or Brown are better to their team than Clune.

Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Clune in the NHL but I'd rather see Staubitz or Haley than him.

First you say, he wouldn't make it because he had the skill of a heavyweight, then I show you he would have probably put up better number if he kept at that pace than all of those guy, and HE FIGHTS MORE THAN THEM. Now it's not about having offensive ability. Do you just dislike Clune because he made that 6'5 guy on the Habs look like a **** fighter? I think he was though wasn't he?

Regardless, the only way I see Clune seeing any time in the NHL, is if the Kings are decimated by injury or if he gets traded.

[fcm]

Originally Posted by brymaster1

Do you just dislike Clune because he made that 6'5 guy on the Habs look like a **** fighter?

See, Crymaster, this is just typical from you. Creating a stance for myself and then looking good by smashing it using fallacy.

It's all about his fighting skills. If Clune had Rypien's fighting skills, he would probably play 50-60 games a year in the NHL. We already have a handful of fighters like Clune in the NHL and for the most part they plat better than him. It's simple, Clune is an AHL middleweight.

[brymaster1]

Originally Posted by fcm

See, Crymaster, this is just typical from you. Creating a stance for myself and then looking good by smashing it using fallacy.

It's all about his fighting skills. If Clune had Rypien's fighting skills, he would probably play 50-60 games a year in the NHL. We already have a handful of fighters like Clune in the NHL and for the most part they plat better than him. It's simple, Clune is an AHL middleweight.

Jesus, you've contradicted yourself so many times in your last few posts.

[I_am_Belak_2]

You should add Luke Gazdic and Francis Wathier for the Stars. With only Nystrom available, either one (if not both) of those two will get a decent shot. And add Mark Fraser for Toronto. He's had a few scraps with Jersey.

[chilly666]

how can patrick bordeleau be on the list though he has never played an nhl game?

why is nathan mciver listed as in the minors when he just signed with the islanders and has a decent chance to make the isles as well?

[I_am_Belak_2]

Honestly, I don't know how anyone could have "minors" beside their name, when the season hasn't even started yet.

And why was there such a debate over Clune when you added Ian freakin' Schultz for Montreal?

[Stevens Lindros]

Guys, minors is just for guys with 2-ways or ELC's who aren't likely to make it full-time. Bordy is on there because he has an NHL contract and he's an old-school enforcer. If he ever makes it up, he will fight... McIver has a 2-way, if he makes the Isles I'll remove the minors tag. Likewise if someone is sent down. Before a season the minors tag means nothing at all. I only added it in because I didn't want to put it in for a dozen or so guys as soon as the season starts. It'll be easy to remove.

[Stevens Lindros]

Originally Posted by I_am_Belak_2

You should add Luke Gazdic and Francis Wathier for the Stars. With only Nystrom available, either one (if not both) of those two will get a decent shot. And add Mark Fraser for Toronto. He's had a few scraps with Jersey.

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