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[fansince65]

Originally Posted by Plateworker

Hate to tell you that you are getting ripped off or you are just plain lying. No where have I ever heard of soccer costing so much. Like I said I have coached for years rep soccer and train with UK elite league and even private lessons and all year around does not even come close to costing anywhere near what you are paying. Hockey is down BECAUSE it coasts so much to play and people don't have that type of money to throw around any more. Soccer is CHEAP and will always be that is why it is most popular 3rd world countries and poorer nations. Plus hockey being a cold weather sport it cost tons of money in warmer climates because of ice time rentals.

I think you are right , he is lying . My nephew has a girl (13 years old) that plays soccer at the highest level in Ontario , she is touted by universities from the US and Canada with full scholarships already , she is also scouted by the Canadian national team , it costs him about 1500 dollars for both summer and indoor winter soccer , the team she plays for has their own bus , it costs $10 dollars for a road trip , the most expense he has is for hotels and meals on the many road trips they go on , that can cost a parent a pretty penny , it used to be my most expense every year traveling with a hockey team ..

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by fansince65

I think you are right , he is lying . My nephew has a girl (13 years old) that plays soccer at the highest level in Ontario , she is touted by universities from the US and Canada with full scholarships already , she is also scouted by the Canadian national team , it costs him about 1500 dollars for both summer and indoor winter soccer , the team she plays for has their own bus , it costs $10 dollars for a road trip , the most expense he has is for hotels and meals on the many road trips they go on , that can cost a parent a pretty penny , it used to be my most expense every year traveling with a hockey team ..

Hahahahahahahaha. So I am lying eh? What the **** do you & that other moron know?

Your U13 nephew plays at the highest level? What level is that? What club? Does she play on her regional team? Full scholarships already (bull****, you know it and I know it -- it does not happen at that age yet)? What showcase tournament has she been to? Please, elaborate. Cause I have a feeling you're talking out of your ass & are full of ****.

You're close to Toronto, no? 1) Check out the Mooredale soccer club. Which btw is located in the affluent neighbourhood called Bridlewood. Surely you have heard of it. The U13 boys team is coached by an ex- CDN international player (who btw gets paid). They also have a certain McBain (who I am sure you have heard of) that is part of the team.

2) Here is just one of the training days that my son participates in. http://just4keepers.ca/j4kclasses/whitby-academy-class/ check out the price. That is for one day of the week over the winter. He also has 4 more days of training with his team.

What more would you & plateworker like?

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by Plateworker

Hate to tell you that you are getting ripped off or you are just plain lying. No where have I ever heard of soccer costing so much. Like I said I have coached for years rep soccer and train with UK elite league and even private lessons and all year around does not even come close to costing anywhere near what you are paying. Hockey is down BECAUSE it coasts so much to play and people don't have that type of money to throw around any more. Soccer is CHEAP and will always be that is why it is most popular 3rd world countries and poorer nations. Plus hockey being a cold weather sport it cost tons of money in warmer climates because of ice time rentals.

You just won't give up will you.

I know you have coached rep soccer for years. Please enlighten us here, and give us the name of the club you coach. Can you also enlighten us to the UK elite league you train with? Do you go to the UK or does the UK come to you? What private lessons do you train? You must have a website, surely someone as involved and with credentials like yours, you would.

Please, show me.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by D Y B FLYERS

Just out of curiosity, why so much? Here in the US, when you play hockey...you buy the equipment. It isn't provided to you by the school like football equipment is (atleast around the majority of the country). Soccer really doesn't have much in terms of equipment, so where does a cost nearly equalling hockey come in? You pay for ice time, and soccer is usually at a field which is usually much cheaper to rent. Is your son playing in some advanced league or something like that? I've never heard of it costing that much to play soccer around here unless he is in some sort of serious league. Just wondering.

http://mlsportsplex.com/leagues/regi...3-boys-and-up/ - what it costs for a 12 game league
http://just4keepers.ca/j4kclasses/whitby-academy-class/ - what it costs for my son to train one day a week over the winter

Now add in 3 more training days - one is a futsal league, one is fitness training at a fitness facility & the other is team training at an indoor facility.

Soccer is no longer just a "fill in sport" for kids. It is now a year round sport here. It is very very competitive. What my sons team does, is not even close to what some other teams do. I am sorry that the other two here who dispute what I am saying, or think I am lying. I am not.

http://tpr.getgame.ca/?page=teams&DPick=B12 - this is a site that shows the rankings of the U12 (which my son was last season) and you can see for yourself how many REP soccer clubs there are, and how competitive it really is.

Ask me any other questions you'd like and certainly I will try and provide more links or anything else.

[thruby]

soccer is cheap. you need a ball. just because you are throwing money at it, doesn't make it expensive everywhere. you could say that anything is expensive if you're willing to pay way too much for it. having a kid who likes to draw could be expensive if you're having him in classes, buying expensive materials, etc. or, you could just give him a bic and a sheet of paper.

good on you though, i'm sure your son appreciates the fact that you're willing to pay for all this stuff, but just because you're spending that much doesn't make soccer an expensive sport. you two (or whoever the hell is even arguing this anymore) are arguing two different points. soccer is expensive for you because you choose for it to be.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by thruby

soccer is cheap. you need a ball. just because you are throwing money at it, doesn't make it expensive everywhere. you could say that anything is expensive if you're willing to pay way too much for it. having a kid who likes to draw could be expensive if you're having him in classes, buying expensive materials, etc. or, you could just give him a bic and a sheet of paper.

good on you though, i'm sure your son appreciates the fact that you're willing to pay for all this stuff, but just because you're spending that much doesn't make soccer an expensive sport. you two (or whoever the hell is even arguing this anymore) are arguing two different points. soccer is expensive for you because you choose for it to be.

You are confusing the cost of equipment with the actual cost of development.

I can only hope you understand that there is a difference between that.

Hence, when you look at the development of a player (hockey or soccer) the cost is relatively the same. Again, I can only hope you and the others understand this -- as this is and was my point.

[thruby]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

You are confusing the cost of equipment with the actual cost of development.

I can only hope you understand that there is a difference between that.

Hence, when you look at the development of a player (hockey or soccer) the cost is relatively the same. Again, I can only hope you and the others understand this -- as this is and was my point.

and this whole thing started because you confused the fact that soccer takes a ball to play, with running your child through training camps and higher class leagues.

i can only hope you understand that there is a difference between that.

[canuck2]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

You are confusing the cost of equipment with the actual cost of development.

I can only hope you understand that there is a difference between that.

Hence, when you look at the development of a player (hockey or soccer) the cost is relatively the same. Again, I can only hope you and the others understand this -- as this is and was my point.

how many dominicans and Africans are playing hockey?

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by thruby

and this whole thing started because you confused the fact that soccer takes a ball to play, with running your child through training camps and higher class leagues.

i can only hope you understand that there is a difference between that.

Ahh really? Hmm, I believe that argument was between rep soccer & rep hockey (and initially about registration for soccer in Canada higher than hockey - then about the cost to play rep soccer & rep hockey). Not between a ball & puck. Sorry to hurt your feelings there friend.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by canuck2

how many dominicans and Africans are playing hockey?

Point please.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

You are confusing the cost of equipment with the actual cost of development.

I can only hope you understand that there is a difference between that.

Hence, when you look at the development of a player (hockey or soccer) the cost is relatively the same. Again, I can only hope you and the others understand this -- as this is and was my point.

I hope you understand that to just be able to play hockey competitively you need to buy skates,gloves,helmet,pads and a stick....on the other hand all you need for soccer is a ball.

There is a reason soccer and basketball are the most popular sports globally...they're the cheapest and ice time isn't a factor.

Now I'm sure you could rack up a pretty heft bill with all the extra bull**** lessons and all that....but to just merely play the game soccer and basketball are much more affordable.

[Boston Garden]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

Point please.

Most of the DR is in poverty, hence they play sports like baseball,soccer, and basketball that are not expensive.

[pigfarmer]

Originally Posted by ChiefJunior

Ahh really? Hmm, I believe that argument was between rep soccer & rep hockey (and initially about registration for soccer in Canada higher than hockey - then about the cost to play rep soccer & rep hockey). Not between a ball & puck. Sorry to hurt your feelings there friend.

I don't know about Canada, maybe it is getting popular with older kids, but here in America, soccer is what little kids play until they are able to play real sports. By that I mean until you can swing a baseball bat and somewhat be able to throw some sort of ball.

What I am trying to say is that if you look at the numbers I bet soccer registration in the US is quite high, but it is skewed by kids who can't play any other sport yet.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

I hope you understand that to just be able to play hockey competitively you need to buy skates,gloves,helmet,pads and a stick....on the other hand all you need for soccer is a ball.

There is a reason soccer and basketball are the most popular sports globally...they're the cheapest and ice time isn't a factor.

Now I'm sure you could rack up a pretty heft bill with all the extra bull**** lessons and all that....but to just merely play the game soccer and basketball are much more affordable.

Ok. I can see most of you do not have a child playing rep sports. As my son plays both, hockey and soccer. Both rep sports. I also take it, most of you also do not live in Toronto or the surrounding area.

When you look at the price it costs to play one of these sports it is roughly the same. Plain & simple. My son has been doing both since he was seven. I don't know how this can be argued upon. Sorry people, but Walt Disney did not have a say in what I am telling you.

You can think what you like, but it is the same all across Ontario. My son is not the only kid that is playing at a "high level". There are 100s upon 100s of kids.

[ChiefJunior]

Originally Posted by Boston Garden

Most of the DR is in poverty, hence they play sports like baseball,soccer, and basketball that are not expensive.

Very true, DR is a poor country. What about Germany? France? Italy? Spain? Switzerland? Australia? Japan? England?

Are they poor too?