Conference Semifinals: #5 Philadelphia Flyers vs. #6 New Jersey Devils

[mmafan]

Originally Posted by Bruins29

What a shocker...the Philadelphia Euros are about to be eliminated from the playoffs by a gritter team with better goaltending. I wonder if Paul Holmgren still thinks throwing $51 million at immobile Ilya Bryzgalov was a good idea? Have fun trying to dump that albatross.

The Flyers haven't had a legit playoff caliber goalie since Bernie Parent, and they'll never win again without one.

comming from the team that couldnt get out of the 1st round!! congrats bro!

[Gustis]

Originally Posted by camx

What do expect from a guy who turtled when he fought Crosby

I am cracking up at this post. You have officially lost all intelligent points (not that you had many to begin with after a few of your beloved penguins posts). I'm sorry there is no other way to describe that post but utter stupidity.

Anyway, this series has been more of the Flyers battling themselves. I don't mean this as an insult, but the Devils have been pretty irrelevant. Flyers are struggling with their Defense and Offense big time. Not sure what it is, but that boring trap that the Devils play just makes it all the more difficult for a team that's already bad in their own zone. I think Laviolette will give them a huge wake up call and we'll see if the Flyers can play their true self. There's no way a team that beat the Pittsburgh Penguins so badly like that are taking the same from a team that hardly beat the Florida Panthers. It's just hard to believe. Hopefully the Flyers will start to get the uphand on the battle vs themselves.

[NJD Oliwa]

Originally Posted by gustis

i am cracking up at this post. You have officially lost all intelligent points (not that you had many to begin with after a few of your beloved penguins posts). I'm sorry there is no other way to describe that post but utter stupidity.

Anyway, this series has been more of the flyers battling themselves. I don't mean this as an insult, but the devils have been pretty irrelevant. Flyers are struggling with their defense and offense big time. Not sure what it is, but that boring trap that the devils play just makes it all the more difficult for a team that's already bad in their own zone. I think laviolette will give them a huge wake up call and we'll see if the flyers can play their true self. There's no way a team that beat the pittsburgh penguins so badly like that are taking the same from a team that hardly beat the florida panthers. It's just hard to believe. Hopefully the flyers will start to get the uphand on the battle vs themselves.

lol.

[hazard5]

Originally Posted by Gustis

Not sure what it is, but that boring trap that the Devils play just makes it all the more difficult for a team that's already bad in their own zone.

It's true. You certainly don't know what it is thats going on. A defensive trap is about turnovers in the neutral zone and not an aggressive forecheck. To whit, the Devils are not a trapping team. DeBoer has never been a coach that relied on a trapping system.

Even the Philadelphia press has acknowledged this

"The Devils have pinned the Flyers deep inside their own zone, tiring them out defensively so they have no energy to attack."

http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-phil...728&feedID=704

So spare us that "Devils trap" nonsense and trying watching a few games before you comment on what style of play is for these teams.

Jesus H, every thread with the Devils has a moron whining about their "trap"
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[RetardedChimp]

Devils. Trap hockey baby.

[hockey doc]

Originally Posted by Bruins29

What a shocker...the Philadelphia Euros are about to be eliminated from the playoffs by a gritter team with better goaltending. I wonder if Paul Holmgren still thinks throwing $51 million at immobile Ilya Bryzgalov was a good idea? Have fun trying to dump that albatross.

The Flyers haven't had a legit playoff caliber goalie since Bernie Parent, and they'll never win again without one.

Dumbf*** doesn't realize the defending SC champs of last season got unceremoniously dumped out of the 1st round by a lowly soft 7th seed.

[camx]

Originally Posted by Gustis

I am cracking up at this post. You have officially lost all intelligent points (not that you had many to begin with after a few of your beloved penguins posts). I'm sorry there is no other way to describe that post but utter stupidity.

Anyway, this series has been more of the Flyers battling themselves. I don't mean this as an insult, but the Devils have been pretty irrelevant. Flyers are struggling with their Defense and Offense big time. Not sure what it is, but that boring trap that the Devils play just makes it all the more difficult for a team that's already bad in their own zone. I think Laviolette will give them a huge wake up call and we'll see if the Flyers can play their true self. There's no way a team that beat the Pittsburgh Penguins so badly like that are taking the same from a team that hardly beat the Florida Panthers. It's just hard to believe. Hopefully the Flyers will start to get the uphand on the battle vs themselves.

Talk about intelligence u don't know the difference between a trapping defense vs a team that is highly aggressive on the forecheck..This isnt the Devils of the past that sits back and traps in the neutral zone this team is aggressive and is giving the flyers fits in their own zone

[mmafan]

Originally Posted by camx

Talk about intelligence u don't know the difference between a trapping defense vs a team that is highly aggressive on the forecheck..This isnt the Devils of the past that sits back and traps in the neutral zone this team is aggressive and is giving the flyers fits in their own zone

actually before you speak you should watch the games. when the devs have the lead they sit in a 1-2-2. when the opportunity presents itself they go on the attack.

have they had a great forecheck, yes but they have been playing the trap as well

[Mike Tython]

Originally Posted by mmafan

The videos are endless and pens fans are gonna come in here and bash giroux on one play. you pens fans have no leg to stand on

Yikes, those videos all from 2+ years ago really showed me!

Never said Crosby was a saint or never dove, but don't act like Giroux yapping at the officials is somehow offset because Crosby has done it. Giroux acted like such a little girl during that whole sequence and Flyers fans have even agreed with that.

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by Bruins29

What a shocker...the Philadelphia Euros are about to be eliminated from the playoffs by a gritter team with better goaltending. I wonder if Paul Holmgren still thinks throwing $51 million at immobile Ilya Bryzgalov was a good idea? Have fun trying to dump that albatross.

The Flyers haven't had a legit playoff caliber goalie since Bernie Parent, and they'll never win again without one.

Ron Hextall. Conn Smythe winner, 1985 I believe.

I think they made it to 3 other finals without Parent.

Don't think goaltending has been the Flyers problem in their history, they've simply been outplayed and while Bryz is not playing great, he's actually been keeping them in games where his defense has sh1t the bed.

Flyers could out score Pitt because their defense was worse than the Flyers! NJ has a defensive system that is a hard nut to crack. A blind man could see it Ina minute.

Stop trolling please. If you're going to, at least get your facts straight.

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by Mike Tython

Yikes, those videos all from 2+ years ago really showed me!

Never said Crosby was a saint or never dove, but don't act like Giroux yapping at the officials is somehow offset because Crosby has done it. Giroux acted like such a little girl during that whole sequence and Flyers fans have even agreed with that.

Flyers fans agreed. Someone brought up Crosby and tried to give people sh1t because we ragged so hard on Crosby for doing it on a regular basis.

Giroux looked silly one time. BFD.

Time to move on.

[camx]

Originally Posted by mmafan

actually before you speak you should watch the games. when the devs have the lead they sit in a 1-2-2. when the opportunity presents itself they go on the attack.

have they had a great forecheck, yes but they have been playing the trap as well

Many teams go into 1-2-2 when they have the lead especially up by 2 or more.. The Devils are not a trapping team no more then any other team in the league. They are now an aggressive forechecking team who bottles up teams in there own zone they arent sitting back and trapping these arent the same boring Devils of a few years ago

[mikebflorida]

I have to agree, the Devils aren't doing anything different than most teams in the league now-a-days, they are just doing it really well, getting opportunistic goals, and let's call it what it is, the Flyers are playing like sh1t, the coach hasn't done what's needed to shake things up, and they face elimination.

Why the coach didn't use some different players like Rinaldo or Sestito in an effort to change things is beyond me. They aren't world class players or anything but they bring something DIFFERENT to the lineup and the current lineup hasn't played well after game 1 and it might be too late to try something different.

Very frustrating. If you're looking to assign blame, I'd start with the coach, I think he's had his head up his a$$ this entire series. Clueless as to what to do to adapt to the way NJ plays.

On a side note, my dad flew up Saturday and is going to tonight's game, courtesy of Pavel Kubina who is languishing in the press box. I feel bad, I really thought he'd help the team during the playoffs but the coach doesn't like him and he's not happy there at all, definitely not a trade that worked out for either side.

[flyersvikes]

Originally Posted by mikebflorida

Ron Hextall. Conn Smythe winner, 1985 I believe.

I think they made it to 3 other finals without Parent.

Don't think goaltending has been the Flyers problem in their history, they've simply been outplayed and while Bryz is not playing great, he's actually been keeping them in games where his defense has sh1t the bed.

Flyers could out score Pitt because their defense was worse than the Flyers! NJ has a defensive system that is a hard nut to crack. A blind man could see it Ina minute.

Stop trolling please. If you're going to, at least get your facts straight.

Hextall was 87', a guy named Pelle Lindbergh was goalie in 85', winning 40 games regular season and the Vezina trophy.

[Philly Fan 27]

Originally Posted by camx

Talk about intelligence u don't know the difference between a trapping defense vs a team that is highly aggressive on the forecheck..This isnt the Devils of the past that sits back and traps in the neutral zone this team is aggressive and is giving the flyers fits in their own zone

stop running from your original point. you really think giroux turtled to crosby?

the devils have been playing the trap w/ the lead...but so has every other team in the league. the way they trap today isnt nearly as boring as it was before the lockout.