Conference Finals: #1 New York Rangers vs #6 New Jersey Devils

[KnucklesNilan]

Devils in 6.

The Rangers forwards looked tired and beatup.. their only saving grace is their defense, which is playing really well. I found it annoying and funny how Rangers fans were comparing Callahan to Messier as the Rangers' captain.. not even close.

The Devils forward look fresh and more energetic. They need to push the Rangers defense, just like they did the Flyers.

I'll give a slight edge to Queen Henrik..

Wonderful! We get to see another round full of Torts' retarded, stressful face gestures, like he's constantly getting an enima!

Deboer's face gestures are at least a little more comical when things don't go his way... he looks all nevous like he's waiting on line for a scary roller coaster or entering a haunted house for the first time!

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by Janssen25

Listen creepy Mr. Hooters guy. Please spare us you're analysis of the Devils, their arena and location. You're clearly not informed and you're opinion on the matter is irrelevant just like the the 10th place non-playoff Lightning are to this discussion.

Also, enough with this conspiracy theory "Flyer team that didn't give a crap" nonsense. Talk like that is almost as embarassing as going to a Hooters style restaurant and hitting on the college wait staff that's half your age.

Firstly, the little jibes about where I spend my time watching sports on TV and having a few beers is just childish. You can stop anytime, the jealousy and immaturity it takes to make fun of someone who clearly gets laid a lot more is glaring.

Secondly, I am quite well informed about things in the NHL except why the Devils don't draw well and why the Nets are leaving. Tim touched on the fact that the Flyers are only 86 miles away and the Rangers are across the river so both of those teams that were there long before the Devils came to town likely take away many would be fans. What can you do?

I would also think that the Devil's past success was based on the trap and taking advantage of hooking, holding, obstruction, and any other tactic used to slow the game down to snail's pace. Players like Scott Stevens and Ken Daneyko won cups thanks to the style they played that the NHL let them get away with for far too long and they took full advantage of it. Basically, all of the rule changes we see now are a result of the NJ Devils so I guess we should thank them? LOL

Today's Devils are not a bad team but they aren't really all that good either, it's hard to imagine them winning the cup and if they do, it would be really shocking. I didn't think they'd beat Florida or Philly. They barely beat Florida and they beat a shell of a team called the Flyers who, like it or not, were beaten before the series even started, it was amazing they even won a game. It's not a conspiracy theory, it's a fact, and I'm sorry to sh1t on your victory parade but that's just the way it is. Almost any team could have beaten the Flyers because many of them had already given up, basically quit for personal reasons, not liking the coach, not liking each other, and the fatigue of a long season combined to shut the team down. The Devils benefitted.

Now they face a united team with a cup winning coach and home ice advantage, it will be a tall task but to be fair, I honestly give the Devils a shot because anything can happen in the playoffs and NJ has some good scorers and Brodeur who can steal games and everyone left in the playoffs has a hot goalie and plays a strong forecheck and good defense and that's what wins now-a-days.

Should be a good series, even if all the seats at the Rock aren't full.

[Janssen25]

Originally Posted by mikebflorida

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So what we get from this masterpiece post from you is:

"The jealousy and immaturity it takes to make fun of someone who clearly gets laid a lot more is glaring."

Ok pal. Give a wait staff half your age huge tips and them taking pictures with you out of pity in return doesn't equate to getting laid.

"Secondly, I am quite well informed about things in the NHL except why the Devils don't draw well."

Right, you're not informed, so stop talking about it. If you want to start another thread about the Devils and their attendance, I'll gladly explain it to you. It's pretty simple.

"I would also think that the Devil's past success was based on the trap and taking advantage of hooking, holding, obstruction, and any other tactic used to slow the game down to snail's pace. Players like Scott Stevens and Ken Daneyko won cups thanks to the style they played that the NHL."

Ah yes, the old "trap" theory. The Devils played the trap in 1995 and won the Cup. Thats where it ends. In 2000 when the won the Cup they finished 2nd in the NHL in scoring and in 2001 when they lost in Game 7 of the Finals they finished 1st in the NHL in scoring. Clearly, a snails paced game.

"Today's Devils are not a bad team but they aren't really all that good either"

They're in the Eastern Conference Finals and 1 of the last 4 teams left but according to you "they're not that good." Just stop, it's getting worse the more you go on.

"Almost any team could have beaten the Flyers because many of them had already given up, basically quit for personal reasons, not liking the coach, not liking each other, and the fatigue of a long season combined to shut the team down. The Devils benefitted."

Here we go with the conspiracy theory. So according to you, the Flyers were ready to go, came out flying against the Pens, played with a huge amount of emotion and ousted the Cup favorites but when they played the Devils they just decided to "give up" for the hell of it. Riiiiight...

"Should be a good series, even if all the seats at the Rock aren't full."

The Devils have sold out every post season game this season.

"Now they face a united team with a cup winning coach and home ice advantage, it will be a tall task but to be fair, I honestly give the Devils a shot because anything can happen in the playoffs and NJ has some good scorers and Brodeur who can steal games and everyone left in the playoffs has a hot goalie and plays a strong forecheck and good defense and that's what wins now-a-days."

Pretty much the only logical thing you said in that entire post.

[hazard5]

Originally Posted by mikebflorida

I would also think that the Devil's past success was based on the trap and taking advantage of hooking, holding, obstruction, and any other tactic used to slow the game down to snail's pace. Players like Scott Stevens and Ken Daneyko won cups thanks to the style they played that the NHL let them get away with for far too long and they took full advantage of it.

Wow. You're a moron.

[mikebflorida]

Sorry if the truth hurts fellas.

Doesn't it seem strange to you that the Flyers laid down so easily? It's no conspiracy theory, it's a fact, I like how you carefully avoided that little bit of my post. But hey, you don't have to believe me, you can go on thinking the Devils must be really good since they beat the Flyers. I think I can take the word of players in the Flyer's room who know more than any of us do and what actually happened after game 1 on the ice.

And your insults are nothing but, I know the truth which is why I'm not afraid to talk about it unlike some people who just make sh1t up as they go along and have no balls to be honest. Grow up.

Enjoy the series, it should be a good one.

[hazard5]

Originally Posted by pesadillamal

The Devils got here around 1980 so they have a fan base filled with new age fans that are very uneducated in the sport.

1980 WAS THIRTY TWO YEARS AGO.

If you were ten years old when the Devils came to NJ - about as young as one can be to like pro sports - then you are in you 40s right now.


"Oh! All of those 40 year old new age hockey fans that have been watching the sport since Gretzky was in Edmonton. They are the scourge of my existence"

"new age hockey fans"

Where do they grow people like you? You and canuck should have your own cable access show where you rail against the indignities in life and pretend you aren't whiny losers.

The NY Rangers arena is in the center of a Disneyfied Manhattan Island. Its tourist central for the eastern seaboard, and corporations and wall street all are entrenched there. OF COURSE your attendance is good - even with the diluted product that Tortorella has put on the ice. I don't know what the hell that is, but it isn't good hockey. You've got a legion of interchangeable 2nd rate players encircling you goalie and you couldn't score more than 3 goals in the last 7 games. Wow - high flying stuff you have there.

The Devils are the 11th most valuable NHL franchise according to Forbes. But no one is a fan right?

Oh! Those new age hockey fans!

[fansince65]

Devils in 6 ..

[mikebflorida]

Originally Posted by hazard5

The Devils are the 11th most valuable NHL franchise according to Forbes. But no one is a fan right?

Oh! Those new age hockey fans!

» Rank Team Current Value ($mil) 1-Yr Value Change (%) Debt/Value (%) Revenue ($mil) Operating Income ($mil)

11 Dallas Stars 230 1 126 90 -1.1
12 Washington Capitals 225 14 58 94 -7.5
13 Calgary Flames 220 7 15 105 1.1
14 Minnesota Wild 213 5 53 97 -5.9
15 Edmonton Oilers 212 16 47 96 17.3
16 San Jose Sharks 211 9 21 96 -7.8
17 Ottawa Senators 201 3 65 100 2.8
18 Colorado Avalanche 198 0 12 83 6.1
19 Anaheim Ducks 184 -2 35 84 -8.4
20 New Jersey Devils 181 -17 144 100 -6.1


Apparently you don't read very well.

Their value is one of the only teams to actually drop and they had the largest drop of any team, 17%. That's HUGE.

The Rangers are the 2nd most valuable hockey franchise, after the Maple Leafs, by the way. Philly is 8th and they dropped 4%.

[thepolishkid88]

I sincerely hate both teams, franchises, and cities. However I would really like to see Marty go out on top and seeing the Devils back in the SCF would be really cool. Also would be awesome to see some former Pens like the Moose, Sykora, and the Pony in the SCF as well.

I think the Rangers are running on empty at this point and I see the Devils winning in 6.

[canuck2]

This should be fun!!

Finally a series that involves the Devils that hockey fans actually would care one iota about.

Finally the Devils will face a team with a decent goalie and some balls!!

Should here a lot of B.S. from there new age hockey fans on this site.

Rangers in 6!!!

[KiddYidd]

This Ranger team is just getting started! All the running on empty and guys being tired is just loser talk from the fans who's teams have no heart.

The players playing in this series are world class athletes who don't need rest because they are running on pure adrenaline and desire too win the Cup.

Fatigue will certainly not be a factor if the Rangers lose it will be because the Devils were the better team.

On that note the Devils haven't face a team with the goaltending and defense the Rangers have and this team has by far the best second tier talent I have ever witnessed plus after the Rangers win we will sign Zach Parise in the offseason just to rub it in.

[hazard5]

Originally Posted by mikebflorida

Apparently you don't read very well.

Their value is one of the only teams to actually drop and they had the largest drop of any team, 17%. That's HUGE.

Whats "HUGE" is the deficit in your intelligence. The Devils just had $13 million of debt erased when an arbitrator sided with them over the city. That eliminates much of what affected that evaluation. If you don't follow the team, try to not comment and you won't talk from a position of ignorance. Hooters guy.

[hazard5]

Originally Posted by KiddYidd

plus after the Rangers win we will sign Zach Parise in the offseason just to rub it in.

I have no doubt about that! Ever since the Devils won the Cup in 1995 the Rangers have been signing Devils after our coaches and management teach them how to be champions.

•The Rangers signed Bruce Driver to a fat contract.

•The Rangers signed Bobby Holik to a fat contract.

•The Rangers signed Scott Gomez to a fat contract.

•The Rangers signed John MacLean at the first chance they could.

•The Rangers signed Pascal Rheaume at the first chance they could.

•The Rangers tried desperately to sign Patrik Elias.

If the Devils organization put their skate sharpening machine on ebay the Rangers would set an online auction record trying to buy it.

And yet the Devils never try to sign any Rangers players.
And yet the Rangers have not won ANY championships in the 18 years of scavenging from our scraps. And to this day the Rangers STILL don't develop talent. They even found a coach with a system that doesn't need that much talent.

[pesadillamal]

Originally Posted by hazard5

1980 WAS THIRTY TWO YEARS AGO.

If you were ten years old when the Devils came to NJ - about as young as one can be to like pro sports - then you are in you 40s right now.


"Oh! All of those 40 year old new age hockey fans that have been watching the sport since Gretzky was in Edmonton. They are the scourge of my existence"

"new age hockey fans"

Where do they grow people like you? You and canuck should have your own cable access show where you rail against the indignities in life and pretend you aren't whiny losers.

The NY Rangers arena is in the center of a Disneyfied Manhattan Island. Its tourist central for the eastern seaboard, and corporations and wall street all are entrenched there. OF COURSE your attendance is good - even with the diluted product that Tortorella has put on the ice. I don't know what the hell that is, but it isn't good hockey. You've got a legion of interchangeable 2nd rate players encircling you goalie and you couldn't score more than 3 goals in the last 7 games. Wow - high flying stuff you have there.

The Devils are the 11th most valuable NHL franchise according to Forbes. But no one is a fan right?

Oh! Those new age hockey fans!

I am 38 so I was 6 in 1980. I had already been a Ranger fan for a couple years. I know you can't understand that because you are not really a true hockey fan but that is not my problem.

I really don't care about the Rangers selling out and I never mentioned it. The only reason I brought up the Devils' attendance was because you said evreybody in NJ is a Devil fan. You brought it up and J25 should read the posts I am replying to before whining about my post. There are a lot of people in NJ and if everyone was a fan they would not be 24th in the league.

Yes, the Devils have fans. Who said they had none? There will be a fair amount at the Garden tonight. Their fatbacks will be pouring out of their Marty jerseys as they reach their two beer limit midway through the second and pass out, only awakening to leave when the Rangers make it 4-0. They will be in packs of four with a couple gay dudes and an beastly looking broad attached to some tub of shXt.

[NickDoh]

There's a beer limit at MSG?