Originally Posted by Churla22
Actually, around a dozen guys went the distance with him....and 68 KOs in 74 wins
Of course I should 've mentioned "Shavers winning a decision " by going the distance ..in his prime only 2 winning decisions . True others went the distance ( winning ) . The point being if he was hitting you ...you were usually out
. ..and you would almost never get outpointed by Shavers. Only later in his career did he get some more winning decisions. Both Ali and Holmes were some of the few that tasted Shavers power and survived..due to unbelievable chin and courage. The Homes right in the second fight was the most devastating punch ever thrown..Shavers himself said "I don't ever wanna hit someone that hard again"....miraculously , Holmes got up..not sure what planet he was on but managed to survive and stay away from trouble the rest of the fight.
As far as JK, yes forgot about the Brash "fights" ..another one that looked like he pooped himself..good thing he had dark pants.
BBBB, in a hockey fight ..it's much easier to stay alive in a fight..against JK, many guys just fell to the ice , or smartly tied up his right. Before a fight ..if the idea is in your head to swing freely , because you're mad ...that sometimes is negated by who's in front of you. I can tell you one thing..if more guys went t2t with JK - he'd a had a ton of tko's and KO's. Yes he fought a lot of tomato cans (esp. early) but how many times did you see very destructive guys like TT, or Semenko, etc..that fight stiffs and are unable to get the KO , or even a tko...because they're in survival mode. BBBB, don't know how many hockey fights you've had, but if the other guy is worried about getting hurt- and wants to survive...it'll be hard to really get to him with anything meaningful . This is what happened with JK and TT ...guys were trying to survive . I'm sure you know this, but thought I'd remind you.
Now , when I knew JK ...I argued that the problem with swinging for the fences is playing Russian Roulette ...it's difficult to find a dance partner. So ..the end result is ..cowering (TT, Ray , Brash) ..or seat belting (Berube) ..not great fights. The other problem is that when that swing misses it leaves you open , or you fall off balance (Richter) and the fight is over. I argued that he should've shortened his punches which would've made for many more openings, much better fights, and less chance of a tko (Coxe). He did very well on his own, but it was good to see that he changed his style -using his left and more technical strategies) and not just load up on the right and hope for the best.
But interestingly out of his 250+ fights only a handful actually slugged it out with JK :
Eagles (KO win)
Jackson (KO win)
Coxe (tko loss)
McGill (2-2 ? tko loss)
Raglan (KO loss)
Kyte ( 1-2-1 KO win )
Gill 3-3 ???
off the top of my head ...
but this shows you how dangerous Russian Roulette is ... Kyte and Jackson were never the same. I'll have to go through his card but that's not a great record ironically enough. In just those fights his record is about .500, BUT... the guys he did hurt he hurt bad, whereas tko losses just knocked him off his feet and he was fine ( except possibly Raglan ..he was down for a bit).