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Old 09-17-2012, 10:39 AM
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while we are discussing simon: Are these bails or some kind of selective balance on simon's part? Brashear gets a lot of heat for bailing but Simon seems to have really made it an artform himself. Thoughts? Opinions? Oh and btw, I love Simon. I think he was a great fighter and is a bona fide top-20 guy in my book. Everyone is fair game on here. we discuss the good the bad and the ugly of every fighter here at RW.

Chris Simon vs Mark Janssens Round 1 - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Chris McAllister Round 1 - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Chris McAllister Round 2 - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Brent Severyn Round 1 - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Reid Simpson - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Chris Neil Round 2 - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Kevin Sawyer - YouTube

Chris Simon (Chicago) vs Aaron Downey (Dallas) - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Scott Parker - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Zdeno Chara Round 2 - YouTube

Chris Simon vs Eric Godard Round 1 - YouTube

Eric Godard vs Chris Simon - YouTube

Chris Simon vs John Erskine Jan 12, 2006 - YouTube

Simon vs Roy Dec 8, 2007 - YouTube

Derek Boogaard vs. Chris Simon 01/14/06 - YouTube


BBBB, do you see a trend here? He had losses, several of them TKO's in my opinion, to Janssens, Erskine, Chris McAllister, Kevin Sawyer, Aaron Downey, Chris Neil, and Andre Friggin Roy, not exactly the creme de la creme of hockey fighters. Tough guys, one and all but definitely 2nd tier and then a bunch of losses to Godard, Boogaard, Severyn, McCarthy, Tocchet, among others.

You keep posting the fights where he beats an aged Dave Brown and they were close fights anyway and Probert who we all know was done at that point so you're just not making a very good case for Simon at #2 all time.

I've always thought he was a good fighter but his willingness was always in question for me and of course he had a bunch of losses to unspectacular foes. You just can't manage to do that with most other top shelf guys like Brown, Kocur, Wilson, Probert, Playfair, Laraque, Brashear, and others.

Take McSorely for example, he had losses but he had losses to the top guys.

Brown had losses but avenged them, sometimes viciously.

Simon was good but not great. His legacy for me is that he had the talent and skills but didn't have the fire it took to be great, almost like he didn't even want to be doing it, similar to Kordic and I can understand that, it's a hard way to make a living but had he accepted his role and embraced it, like Brown did, things may have been different. And that matters, A LOT!
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