Originally Posted by Howatt8
I don't recall any other fighter's card getting scrutinized to the degree that we are now discounting wins over rookies. Never mind that Hunter was 23/24 years old at the time of the Fotiu fight or that Nilan was 24. I don't know, I just find it a poor argument. You fight, you win, you lose, you draw.
I've never seen anyone take credit away from a fighter for beating rookies. Should we now discount Nystrom's win over Playfair since Playfair was a 20 year-old rookie at the time of that fight? Nystrom had his hands full with Hoyda, also a 20 year-old rookie when Nystrom fought him. How about his fight with Fraser, another 20 year-old rookie?
Do we discount Probert's win over Scott Parker
because Parker was a 20 year-old rookie?
I'm sure there are plenty of fighters who hold big wins over young fighters that never get brought up, but with Fotiu, it becomes a big deal.
I do agree that the Fotiu myth is overrated, but the bias against him is quickly becoming every bit as exaggerated.
Well, Howie got to disagree with you at least on my end about the bias being exaggerated against Fotiu. The fighting young guys or rookies is B.S. doesn't make a difference. His fights do. You compare Nystrom's fights with Playfair, Hoyda and Fraser with Fotiu's fights with Nilan and Hunter and even the Wilson fight. Nystrom's bouts were toe to toe swingouts that proved the fighter that he was no matter what the age of the top flight player he was fighting. Fotiu doesn't have one fight that compares. That is where the exaggeration is. The guy has very few toe to toe bouts. Two that he had he lost vs Wolfman. Other than that Schoeny, Craig C, what else that is even close. That is what I am saying has to be counted along with his card. His wins are exaggerated. The Wilson fight being the biggest. That fight is not that great but is made out to be some titanic struggle. Very exaggerated because unlike Nystrom or Oreilly or a host of others there is not much else to pick from. I think my opinion of Fotiu is based on the Fights he had and the effect his actual playing had. Not speculation and opinion. He doesn't deserve top 25 consideration if you base it on what actually happened in my humble opinion.