I don't even want to hear any of your $hit at this point, it's the pot calling the kettle black. Every single argument on both sides has already been refuted and debated by more skilled debators than yourself. I don't appreciate the fact that you think you're the spirit of truth (you're not). You've already been punked out a couple times and you keep coming back and saying the same things over and over, yet you dare to criticize the way that anyone else has been handling anything in this thread? Weak.
At this point I'm willing to debate it with people who actually have some skill in this department. For you I'll say "durr Probert is better" just to get you to shut up.