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Originally Posted by BaddaBing Badda Boom
I never had any reservation about Twist landing that short right that buclked Laraque. BGL lands in the beginning, looks to KD big Tony, but not for long.
Look, I thought we agreed that we would not resort to "well, it was only his first year bit?" - I have a news flash, ready, Laraque, Twist, Wilson, Fotiu, etc...all did this in the minors, constantly! Its not like they came over to the NHL from doing project development at Microsoft - They are fighters! - From Jump Street! The essentials are the same! I really doubt that anything new short of Probert and Ray losing their Jerseys really surprised any fighter whether it was in their 3rd year in the minors, 1st year in the NHL, etc...so, I see it as a moot point - Let's look at what the evidence shows not what it might show, if only...
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BBBB i think your statement has merrit but might be too general IMHO since most ranking are somewhat subjective anyways....i think "experience" can be a factor
take
Brian McGrattan as an example.....by the time he hit the NHL he was 24 and had 84 professional fights under his belt in the AHL against a who's who list......my expectations would be that he would hit the ground running in the NHL maybe not peak but be very competitive from day 1....similar to a guy like Battleship Kelly who was an AHL legend by the time he hit the NHL and dispatched a prime
Dave Schultz in his first NHL fights....he was 27 and in his fighting prime when he entered the NHL....in these cases being in a rookie season is a non factor due to the load of experience they had at a professional level
compare that to a Wendle Clark type that spent no time in the AHL...he went from junior hockey to the NHL.......similar to
Behn Wilson or
Clark Gillies......these guys spent zero time in the minors so they were taking a big step up and i would expect some adjustment to the NHL level tough guys
i agree with Ewen completely in that different fighters peak at different times...some guys suck as rookies and become solid fighters so i don't think its out of bounds to talk about what point in a career a guy enjoyed his win or suffered a terrible ass whipping.....if you were to have beat Sandman in his first three seasons in the NHL i believe the win has more weight than if you beat him in his last season when he was a shell.....now thats just my take
for the purposes of this fight i would say this was a prime Twist (from 1995 on) when he was really tough to beat due to his brute stregth......BGL was pretty good from day 1 in the NHL and did fine in this fight although he did suffer a loss this was not a crazy beat down by any means
this was an interesting match up due to the fact that both these guys were really tough to beat in their primes.....BGL might be one of the toughest guys "to beat" in the history of the NHL
i found this fight boring and definately not my style but two of the all time strongest guys to ever lace them up