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Originally Posted by srehm1
Oh dear lord, people - It's called sarcasm. Of course Fotiu was past his prime when he fought Paterson. I don't knock Fotiu at all for that fight. I don't knock any fighter for losses late in their career - or early in their career for that matter. I guess I just rank them by how good they were in their primes.
I threw that Fotiu nugget out there to antagonize BBBB for once again starting a thread to belittle Brown and Wilson. Now don't get all exclamation points on me bigjack! I was just making light of BBB's continued attempts to sh!t upon Brown and Wilson. FACT!
As for Probert - Everyone and their mother will tell you he was not the same fighter he was in Chicago that he was while with Detroit. He was still very good and could win some big fights but not the same - he was past his prime. Even being past his prime, Probert still was a top-10 caliber fighter until maybe his last year or so. FACT! I only call'em the way I see'em!
As for the OP's contention that fighters stay the same and don't improve or breakdown - that is NONSENSE. Everyone will tell you that Fotiu was a MUCH better fighter with the Rangers than he was late in his career with Philly. bigjack even you can give me a "FACT!" on that one.
Do people make big deals of a rookie loss or an over the hill loss - yes. But when a poster does nothing but post about the same fighter over and over again non-stop - of course you're going to catch the same excuse over and over again.
For example:
BBBB: Brown was a bully. Simon is #2 all-time. Look at how he handled Brown in those two fights. WOW! You people must be blind not to see it.
EVERYONE ELSE: Simon did good in those fights but they weren't beatdowns and Brown was at the end of his career.
Now when you post the same type of thread over and over again with the same youtube clip over and over again - you will see the same answer to the same goddamn question over and over.
Next day, new thread - same tired (yawn) BS:
BBBB: Brown was a bully. Simon is #2 all-time. Look at how he handled Brown in those two fights. WOW! You people must be blind not to see it.
EVERYONE ELSE: Simon did good in those fights but they weren't beatdowns and Brown was at the end of his career.
next week, new thread - again more baloney:
BBBB: Brown was a bully. Simon is #2 all-time. Look at how he handled Brown in those two fights. WOW! You people must be blind not to see it.
EVERYONE ELSE: Simon did good in those fights but they weren't beatdowns and Brown was at the end of his career.
This becomes tiring but you see my point. It would be nice if people learned from other posters and not beat on the same tired topic. instead we have a few people here who think they and only THEY can see the light and the rest of us are lemmings or sheep being led to the slaughter by some HF.com conspiracy to keep Brown and Wilson atop their perch in the top-3. FACT!
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Actually I was agreeing with you about not making excuses for a young or old fighter. I think you missed my point and am taking it personal for some reason. I have no issues saying that Nicky lost that fight on points but it was no big deal and have never said well he was older bla bla bla!