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Originally Posted by Ciccarelli
That's mainly what I meant, there are lot of more serious problems around then some new rules against fighting in the QMJHL.
Besides that I don't think it will change much from the situation we have already now, also if later or sooner they are handing out game misconducts for fighters it won't change much IMO. Most enforcers (I don't know how it is in the QMJHL) are playing between 20 sec. and 5 mins a game and a lot of times after a fight they are mostly sitting on the bench anyway. So sitting on the bench for nothing or getting ejected from the game doesn't change much IMO. If they would have implemented this rules 20 years ago, yeah they would have made a difference and changed a lot but right now we already have a situation where this rules are not meaningfull and won't change anything IMO. We'll see less line brawls, we had no line brawl in the NHL last season (I'm not sure), I don't know how many line brawls we had in the QMJHL, and they are practically eliminating the goalie fight...I can't remember the last goalie fight in the NHL and I doubt there have been many in the junior leagues either.
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You are correct about the lack of line brawls and goalie fights in the "new" nhl. To my knowledge there were none of either but I could have missed something, its not like I follow the league much anymore.
You are also right that toughguys/enforcers dont play much (I think they do play a bit more in juniors though) but I think it will change things because think of a coach who only has one enforcer/toughguy dressed as most do today. Is he going to risk playing a whole game without a toughguy sitting on the bench after his lone warrior is kicked out in the first period? I would think not, instead I could see him putting in strict "no fight" orders early on to save him for later if needed and if that latter never happens then so be it, save it for next game.
Also lets look at the "heat of the game" type of fight. Lets say a player with some skill who also likes to play a tough game gets drilled and wants to fight, will he and risk getting a instigator to get revenge or will he say "I better wait and not risk getting kicked out"? I would think the later, either way you look at it I dont see how anyone can be happy with this ruling. Yes it does not totaly eliminate fighting but it comes pretty damn close if you ask me.
Fansince65-looks like you are finally catching on. I really dont think any of these leagues care how many fans they lose. Just look at the dwindling attendance across every league, US stadium and the pitifull tv ratings for proof of that. Outside of the canadian teams in the "new" nhl and a handfull of other teams all leagues and teams are struggling mightly to attract fans to this new euro style game.