[nyislesfan45]

Originally Posted by skacore

They don't initiate because they rarely have to, when they had to this year they answered the bell, examples: Phaneuf crushing Hudler, Lappy KOing Lidstrom, Ott taking runs at Lidstrom, McLaren smashing Drake's face, all resulted in a fight. They are the most skilled team in the league and most disciplined team in the league, I'm talking about this year alone and not in years past, clearly the organization saw a need for more toughness and grit so they acquired Downey, Drake, Stuart, and eventually McCarty, those 4 players combined could probably take on the entire Islanders' roster of 20+ players, and the Islanders didn't even make the playoffs, so what's their excuse?

I can understand a non-Wings fan hating the team, they are the New York Yankees of the NHL and a guy like Maltby is so easy to hate, when you're not a fan of them and enjoying their success I can understand them being disciplined gets irritating, watching the 3rd period of 4-0 games with no hopes of a brawl breaking out, but welcome to 2008 where hockey (and sports) has evolved and teams are finding better ways to win games and championships, from an entertainment stand point it sucks but how can you act like the Red Wings are a disgrace to the game of hockey when the Islanders are even softer and they can't even make the playoffs? You post in EVERY single Red Wings thread EVERY day, stop being so fukking bitter.

I post in the Stanley Cup thread and the others in the hockey chat section. If you have a problem with that then cry me a river, its a message board. I never said they are a disgrace, their enforcer says "well take care of it on the powerplay"? Thats not right.


I know the Islanders suck btw, read the Isles thread, every Isles fan on this site thought they were a disgrace. Bash them all you want, Ill probably just agree.

I will disagree with saying Detroit is tougher than the Islanders. Their final lineup had: Brennan, Jackman, Fata, Spiller, Guerin and Comrie, with Witt and Sutton out of the lineup. Most of the year they were a disgrace. So lets say your four against them, I doubt Detroit would "take all 20+ players". The middle/Beginning had Simon, Jackman for some, Sutton, Witt, Guerin, Comrie. Not saying this is at all great but we had 29 fights this regular season and 23 in pre-season compared to 4 in pre-season and 21 in regular for Detroit.

The Detroit organization doesnt have much toughness, same for Grand Rapids. Its a known fact and your all up in arms over a quote in a fellow Detroit fans signature. They are the best at what they do, some people arent going to support it, I support a terrible team but you cant moan and groan over something facts. The fact is: they may be tougher than last year but that doesnt mean they are tough. The new NHL isnt always an excuse, 10 fights last year? 6 the year before? They dont support rough hockey, thats all Im saying. Respond by PMing me, Im not gunna jam up the thread.